You cannot be DE JURE when you (and the bodies politic) are DE FACTO.

The whole De Jure Grand Jury is a joke.

LB Bork wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 8:32pm:



You might be right. I tried to find the rules of court and discovered that there are none. So I suspect that the only backing is the bond, if any authority exists at all.

Court of Ten Millions Dollars.

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You tried to find the rules of court!

And there were none!

I know someone that is selling land on the moon do you want to buy!!

Seeing someone has sold you this line of BS.

Seeing that you have crossed the line here see if you can rescue yourself.  And if I am wrong then I will admit it. Let the games began!! I promise you I will drag you through the mud I will be relentless.

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That's the key..the "authority". Since I, as a living being have no authority to require you to do anything (except keep your paws/mitts off my stuff), where does any government "agency", "agent", "division", "employee", "assignee", etc... have any supposed authority to demand anything from you?

It's all entwined in the brainwashing/mind control., starting from inception into the public fool system (indoctrination centers), continuing into "higher" education. The "authority" isn't there, it's all programing.

The Constitution of No Authority by Lysander Spooner begins to unravel the deception.

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Bonding creates authority. That is what I meant. Published court rules would be an outward sign of a positive law jural society. Having the funding behind any injury caused by an erroneous judgment though - that is real authority.

The taxpayers require the judges to subscribe and oath and if they fail to conform to that oath and statute they lose judicial immunity. The taxpayers have to pay out of the judge's bond when someone is found injured by that malfeasance of office. Ergo, the system has authority.

David, are you a state national?

Jerry wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 11:17pm:


No, he captured his Straw Man 

OK David Your ass is mine!! You want to play?

He has also not read the Red and he has been on this forum since 2008. For someone tending to promote research in photocopy, a poor job has been done of it.


Been down a lot of rabbit trails, but not the trail with the answers to the questions all along.  To bad, that. Really should read The Red Amendment before chasing rabbit trails and flaunting it in the face of this particular forum. After two years and never having read the Red? Unbelievable. Time again to clean house of those who have been in the forum and either never posted (after a particular amount of time) or read the Red, perhaps?

What I showed you all was the secretary of state financing statement with the Colorado republic Great Seal for the collateral.



And the articles of incorporation integrating that document into mine with the two stampings at the top.





For whatever reason, even with the agent's address Colorado Republic, LB decided to open up a discard category and remove all that. Now you all seem confused about what a republic is and why the SoS could not respond to the address on the Colorado Republic. That is not very surprising.

Jerry is a little disturbing. I have shown you factual documentation published at the Secretary of State had he says my ass is his? What's with that?



Regards,

David Merrill.


P.S. LeAnne;

I looked and you asked one question, which I answered and then you gave me an advisement, which I considered and decided not to take.

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I can tell that you are not a state national. LB has laid out the issue of using UCC codes and if you are using them as a state national then you have lost your status. You want to pay more? You are trying to sell land on the moon by doing this. We do not play that game here. Go sell some were else. You are pointing out a con game, just what they want you to believe.

Most who come to this forum have read the material in the plethora of information given within the portals of PAC and Not My Government, have a pretty good understanding of it, and do get and read The Red Amendment prior to posting or very soon thereafter.  This happens to be an educational forum with a sound foundation. It is indeed unfortunate that there are some who join and stay away for months and months only to resurface when their particular rabbit hole is brought to light, i.e. this Guardian's poll.

We do not subscribe to these beliefs you are purporting, and it is an affront to the people of this forum to have joined and never to have done due diligence as regards what PAC is about.


It's coming.

I think your problem is that you declare yourself a state national while the Colorado secretary of state declares me a state national. I am not boasting about the lien and its authenticity. I am showing you for one thing, that the secretary of state threatened me with a Class 5 forgery felony until I made it clear that I was affiliated with state business by picking up the resulting trust for this fellow they could not communicate with because he is on the Colorado Republic.

You seem confused and disturbed to let the accusations fly so easily. Take a look at what I showed you about the Colorado Republic. I think you just get confused and decide it best to start accusing people for confusing you.



Regards,

David Merrill.

P.S.


LeAnne wrote on Jun 17th, 2010 at 12:00am:


I had no idea that you were all so narrow minded as that.

I said your ass is mine because you are siting UCC garbage On this site which tells me that you are not informed of the truth or you are a shill. Pick one!!!!!! 

No room for BS.

Jerry wrote on Jun 17th, 2010 at 12:02am:



Truth be told I sent the first lien in without the UCC-1 Financing Statement to compel the secretary of state to demand it. I wanted it published in order to settle so I sent it with a cover the second time. And you see the third time it was published. I understand where you are coming from. I am showing you something interesting about the Colorado Republic and use of the Great Seal.

If you proclaim to be a state national then I suppose you have a Great Seal for your state?