You may want to look at the other posts on the Guardians.

They may be found in The Wolves in Sheeps Clothing section of the forum :

• http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/NMG.pl?board=IA_Wolves

I have a firm insight that this whole thing is a sting operation of the adversary.

Both Sam Kennedy and Tim Turner have use the "redemption" nonsense to suck people in.
The past several years many people have been prosecuted and lost property due to those scams.

All divide and conquer tactics... All very sad.

I voted no, it won't work, because I feel, that we don't need guardians set up to protect us, I think we, the State Nationals would be the ones to decide how to best take care of ourselves, as a community in our own countries.

First of all I have to say where in Yahweh's perfect laws in the bible does he authorize Grand Juries.  Not to menchion if people took time to look at the US Constitution they would find that it is more Anti Christian then it is Christian and goes against Yahweh's perfect laws in the bible.  The best thing to do is correct our Nationality.  Let the US Constitutional system die a natural death and live under Yahweh's perfect laws where Yahweh is Sovereign.  That means quit participating in a Constitutional system that is condemned by Yahweh from its inception people.

I voted no on this subject.  Look at what Rev. Manning did at the U of Columbia ordeal.  The so-called jury found long legged mac daddy Obama guilty on all counts and was told it was illegal.  It's hard to have a trial by a jury of your peers if you have no peers as jury members.    Just the copyright on "their" laws should be enough to let you know that it is a private law system and you should remove yourself from it. 

I liked the one  "they will save us "   The only one that will save you is yourself. No one else can do it for you.

Mylene wrote on May 28th, 2010 at 3:01pm:

I agree. State Nationals must be responsible for their communities and countries.

I voted "No" because the de facto government will ignore de jure movements. There is no incentive among the unlawful to change their ways, as most people believe that "if it's a law, it must be lawful," and, most statutes reinforce and reward the government's behavior.

Won't Work...why?? Lost humans responding to a lost cause.

im not here to blast you,for you evidently feel that by grace of God you are to be saved. I am a Grand jurist De-jure. And i like you are frustrated at the whole thing. this government is set to take over this nation which it has been doing since 1913 but got teeth into their plan in 1933 and with the civlil rights act, turned us into a socialist democracy. now we watch as Obama puts the final touches on the one world orders plan of total control. as we capitulate  there are many who are doing something. i and 'Restore America Plan' has put our lives on the line to try one last time to bring back the Republic. and repopulate with soverign citizens.  actually we have had success in Alabama and else where. but its slow. And in here many place Judgements on our efforts and ridicule us for our attempts. we have the Tea party to use to gain new Reps in the federal government but it may be too little too late. but Id rather die trying to re-establish our Republic than tell others that they are the problem and place blame on their efforts. For we all Know that this is an ending. or we woudnt be here.  this road isnt easy brecause you have many minds going in different directions. and its truly difficult to heard turkeys in a thunder storm. not to say that most are brainless but years of training have modified our approach to life. We are at a crossroads. our time is very short and we should learn to support efforts to reinstall this Republic. Much disinformation is spred by persons of other intentions and this government has had many years of learning how to seperate the masses and put them on each others throats. Selma and the south come to mind. Waco Ruby ridge and others come to mind. And what is our purpose? and what do we wish to accomplish? there will be those who will be confronted by their neighbors to find an answer. but arguments are the last thing we need . I put to you to study the beginning of this nation and the "committees of safety" for from them came the people who worked to establish this Republic . and in their history we will find our future. So you may find fault with my decision, but never my nature. For I am one man who believes in God and have prayed for many hours for guidance. No! we as people are not perfect so we do need help. but actions truly speak better than words. And i have placed my honor and my intelligence to finding a way, along with the grace of God, to come to an answer. And all I want is my Republic back. Thankyou Quis

I feel this and other such networks are a set up as a trap or snare.
Lure them in, keep them focused, keep them busy. Keep them hoping.  Lot's of "look at this, don't worry about that. We've got this covered, give it time...."

It is sad to see so many people ensnared and dangling as they are. Knowing that if they don't escape they are doomed.

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That sentiment is what brings me back here again and again. Well put!

We, the people, are the guardians. Unfortunately the majority of people have no desire to be guardians or jurists of any sort. We have an ignorant citizenry in this country.

I voted no because it ain't de jure!

De jure and defacto are like oil & water, they don't mix!

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I am a Grand jurist De-jure.

I voted "No" to this polling, As I believe that, Though this is in theory, A means for solution. The idea of abducating control and power for what the ruling parties consider a "Threat", Is perhaps the wrong approach. Nor do I do not think the "Tea party canidates feel that there will be enough voices in this movement to stand behind the idea. I am indeed a believer that this is exactly what so many of the, PAC,RTR,END THE FED type movements would like to achieve. However,... Until the majority of the American people, get informed, Get involved and get Together, pretty much every one of these movements will not be taken serious, and will be considered by the ruling parties a "Threat".  What is Lacking in these movements?? Take a look into the media.. What sell's appeal? Where is the mentality of the majority? How can one appeal to this, Non commital, mis/un-informed section of Americans?  Our President found the secret.. We need a Canidate. We need the celebrity involvement. We need media support. We need to point out all of the failing of the current ruling parties. We need to be able to demonstrate the successes of the ideas our groups have. We need to be able to reward those that cross the boundries(so to speak).  The reputation's these groups have(stereotypical) as Left wing,rightwing,fanatical,marxist,.... Half of the populous aren't exactly sure what this is and consider it wrong to be involved in any group with such a label. The religious factor is a "No-No".. Cant mix beliefs.. My God may not be the same as your God.. My government tho', should be the same. Everyone can conceptualize this.
To much banter on what is right. What the right thing to do is. What we want to happen.. It is and will continue to be just that.. Banter..

Believe me, I'm sick to death of the way things are, I would love to see change. I desire it with all the fibers of my being, I introduce these concepts into all my daily conversations with those that I have even five minutes to speak with. The Majority of which consider me "Fanatical" and "Anti-Government" and a "Nut Case" and pretty much go on in their daily lives and forget anything I've pointed out to them. I'm certain that their are possibly several government agencies monitoring every key stroke on my computer, My travels and my bank accounts. Not much I can do about it though.. I didnt vote them in nor does my voice mean anything in their decisions on how they control those aspect of my life and privacy..
The Majority rules.. Is that still valid? or just in the board room votes? Hummm..

Get informed.. Get involved.. Get together..