Brother B wrote on Sep 6th, 2010 at 6:00pm:

As for people getting involved, most will not give-up the materialism that they are immersed in. I knew 15 years ago that what is going down now was going to happen; wherefore left the debt-credit system behind. Most people spend their time working to maintain their state of false existence, which they will eventually have to say farewell to. They refuse to take the time now to assist us in fixing things the proper way, and rather stay on the human resource hamster wheel. It is very sad they choose to do this. I have to thank those who are willing to give their time, on the other hand.

Am I being negative here? No, just expressing the way things are with some of the selfish people.

The nut-job Donna aforementioned and agent provocateur Tim Turner's Secured Party nonsense...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h8GbAjm0H4

Any one of the members want to point out the numerous stupid things this woman says? 

1) Strawman
2) Sovereign

Really to much to list all BS

Let me be honest for a second; I too, along with Rich of Illinois, have a before TRA, and after TRA.

Six months ago, before TRA, I was falling for the Jordan Maxwell, UCC, name in ALL CAPS, secret bank account in my name that I can use to pay my taxes, and the I am sovereign trap.

I heard about TRA at the same time the RAP was announced; LB was a guest on RBN, and what I heard him say was enough to turn my attention in the right direction.

So now, after TRA, I can plainly see and hear the BS. I recently met a friend of a friend, and I noticed he had Alex Jones' infowars bumper sticker on his truck. I handed him a "I have a secret" card; he handed me a bunch of papers from his girlfriend's father concerning "sovereign citizenship" with quotes from Theodore Roosevelt about sovereignty of the American people. I took a quick scan and told him, bluntly, there is no sovereign status, the issue is nationality. He said, "what do you mean, like Hispanics, Asians, "African"-Americans." I repeated myself and asked, "did I say anything about ethnicity?" His face went blank and I could tell, I would have to give him a new history lesson in order for him to grasp the concept of a California national. (I invited him and his girlfriend's father to TRA reading group I am organizing with Xsubmariner from San Diego.)

See, as with the people in the above video and with my new friend, I can not honestly judge them, without acknowledging, that I once was just as they are -- incognizant of the political climate. They just don't know the truth about the Fourteenth Amendment and they are being mislead by the likes of interim President Tim Turner and this Donna Kozak lady. PAC has a lot of work to do.

Brother B wrote on Sep 14th, 2010 at 5:13pm:

No kidding... There is a lot of work to do. Who elected this nut-job? Where was the plebiscite that included all of the people of the states that would lawfully put him in office as the so-called de jure "President". Does Turner use the White House in Washington DC, or does he and the other "de jure government" guys meet at Denny's restaurant while a waitress named Flo serves them pancakes?

Nothing but fraudulent nonsense... The Mickey Mouse Club had more substance of existence.
I think there is a new term to come out of this, Patriotardketeers. 

Oh, and how about that Annette 

Conference Call Exposing Tim Turner: JAIL?

http://archive.mail-list.com/paycheck-piracy/message/20101219.065831.05bd324f.en...

This is a conference call between one person who was involved with
Tim Turner's original funding, and one of Tim Turner's current
leadership members. Pretty interesting information, and Tim Turner
is going to jail. Not only that, all others involved with him. Move
the player up to the 27:20 mark when the call starts

https://www.freeconferencing.com/playback_ow.html?cn=94-43-28-63&e=1296450000000...

Quote:


Thanks for taking the time to find this...

Why don't you post this in the republicoftheunitedstates.org thread too.

• http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/NMG.pl?num=1290281912

Jerry wrote on Sep 14th, 2010 at 9:04am:


She also said she is no longer a corporation. Thanks to Timmy, that is!

Someone should tell her she never was an "artificial person". See how bad the movement is misinformed?!?
Too many self-important people and those who want to make a buck.

Could Turner and / or certain RAP members be facing incarceration?

Although names are "not mentioned", is Rod Class talking about Turner?

Class's TalkShoe from last Tuesday, Aug. 2, 2011.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=519305&cmd=apop

Mike

Quote:


I know most of you are new at this stuff, but it really hurts to listen to those people.

Tim Turner hits SCAM.com

Someone is asking questions...

• http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=133632

Some of my friends who fell in love with the "Republic" Tim Turner scam finally dumped the stupid movement months ago.

I am now trying to steer some toward the "law" and TRA.....I am working on getting them more focused but have been successful getting people who are very aware of the law (outside of this turner bunch) and we are forming a group right now.

Could use a TRA speaker or group leader to help....anyone in So Cal?

SoCalPatriot wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 4:30pm:

Send 'Brother B' a Private Message here on the forum.