For awhile now I have been saying that anyone that ignores the 14th Amendment issue is either a plant or an US (US (idiot) Citizen) Citizen. Well, I have put Bob Schultz and his Continental Congress project into the possible plant category. Keep in mind that people can be sucked into a deception by feeling too self-important.

Yes, greed is a dangerous thing.

You are invited to make your own decision. Please review the below report put together by Peter Boyce:

Patriot Alert Regarding Continental Congress 2009

A Brief Synopsis:

A concerted effort was made to set-up the entire patriot/constitutionalist/militia movement into formally making terroristic threats which would have (and still holds some) potential to trigger the justification of declaring martial law and the round-up of all patriots as terrorists.

The Scheme:

Robert Schulz , through his We The People Foundation, whether voluntarily or under duress, organized a Continental Congress 2009 consisting of 105 duly elected citizen delegates representing 48 of the several states.  The Congress was held in St. Charles, IL from Nov. 11-22.  

Manipulated by a pre-planned agenda, the delegates formed sub-committees to draft “reports” which would become part of a finished document entitled, “The Articles of Association” (since changed to “The Articles of Freedom”).  The pre-determined format of these reports was to include instructions to the Congress, the State Legislatures, and the People.

Instructions to the Congress included the formation of an unelected/appointed “Advisory Council” to which all legislation was to be submitted for Council approval before enactment.  Such statements within these initial reports did not immediately raise “red flags”.

Subsequently the final document of the “Articles of Association” would include (under a section entitled “Instructions for Civic Action”) a call for the mobilization of millions of American citizens pledging to simultaneously carry out across America such acts as:  to stop traffic on highways, bridges (George Washington Bridge, NY, etc.), tunnels; to close Congress, State Houses, IRS offices, TV stations, etc.  This was not readily realized by the delegates who were swamped with initial reports, then found themselves voting on reports they were not afforded the opportunity to read due to “lack of toner in the copy machines”.

One delegate made it a point to read a written copy of each of the reports and the initial proposed “The Articles of Association”.  In reading all of the fine print, he realized that the entire agenda boiled down to a manipulation of the delegates into making a demand on Congress to submit to an unelected authoritative body under threat of “serious public inconvenience”. (See Black’s Law Dictionary “terroristic threat”) This is very similar to the US (US (communist) Citizen) Citizen tactic of making a demand for power under threat of national labor strikes.

This final document package from Continental Congress 2009 would serve as a means to marginalize and demonize the entire patriot/constitutionalist/militia movement in the eyes of the American people.  It would give a perceived justification of rounding up millions who signed the pledge.  

The delegate stopped the proceedings by calling for a “Point of Information”, requesting a legal definition of the term “terroristic threat” and consideration of that definition in relation to the Continental Congress delegates being charged with the felony offense of “conspiring to commit terroristic threats”.  He was immediately ruled out of order by the President of CC2009, Michael Badnarik.  The Sgt of Arms was instantly called to escort the delegate from the podium.  As he was being escorted out, another delegate (who had been trying to bring out information about the 14th Amendment) stepped up to the microphone and began reading the requested definition from Black’s Law Dictionary.  That delegate was also immediately ruled out of order and the microphone grabbed away.  

Delegate Number Two was told that any further effort to bring information forward would result in immediate removal and arrest.  Thus began an exodus of the 14th Amendment sub-committee.  Delegate Number One, Two and many of the other delegates, not willing to subject themselves to felony prosecution for conspiring to threaten Congress with terroristic acts, have submitted formal resignations and disassociation letters to the Continental Congress 2009 and We The People Foundation by certified mail.  

It is imperative that the freedom-loving people of America be made aware of this treachery, become activated to expose it, and warn their fellow citizens to beware of signing on to any document pledging their support to carryout acts resulting in “serious public inconvenience”.

Peter F. Boyce

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As the program for the New World Order is in its final stages, resistors have to be put away. What Peter Boyce has outlined above is prima facie evidence of a plot to cause people to go to jail. Moreover, it illustrates the scheme for people to ignore the law that has enslaved them. I now understand why I was not included in this CC Farce.

If you have not seen the fact of the matter of what the truth is, read this to find out :

• http://www.pacinlaw.us/pdf/Historical_Error.php

I've always thought WTP didn't know what they were doing, so this doesn't surprise me.  

"There is a dynamic, then, which moves protestors to become 'police.' "  Quote taken from the article below:

http://cyberjournal.org/authors/fresia/c6.shtml

"Suggestions that something is fundamentally wrong with our political economy and the Constitution are more than difficult to accept; they are difficult even to reflect upon. It is far easier to live in the comfort zone and seek happiness, as The Director would have us do, in liking what we have got to do. Even in our protests we slide away from a direct confrontation of the structure of American life. We tend to avoid the harsh implications of reality and cling to the image of the United States as a basically free and democratic country in the way that one clings to prayer beads or a good luck charm. The axioms of empire have become the axioms of faith. The result is that instead of effective radical politics, our movement tends always to be divided into two main camps. One camp, composed of Congressional Technocrats, insists that the problems we face are problems which can be dealt with by working through the system; politics for them is essentially legislative work. In the second camp are Abstract Spiritualists who believe that the problems we face are problems that can be solved through individual commitments to spiritual renewal, peace, non-violence, and justice. For them political work consists, essentially, of acknowledging that a life force, or god, exists in every human being and in expressing the kind of respect for others that befits a peace-loving community. In neither camp is the Constitution and the global capitalism it supports pointed to as a feature of our existence that is in need of radical change.

These two categories are somewhat artificial as are most analytical tools. It is possible that there is no real single person that fits neatly into either category and certainly there are groups and ways of thinking that overlap both and then some. Moreover, I wish to state very clearly that this analysis is not an indictment of the people involved in doing political work in either camp. Rather it is an attempt to identify a very dangerous tendency. Because each group is marked by a failure to confront the system, it carries within it an implicit endorsement of the system and a very real tendency to discipline, if not purge, those protestors who seek to pursue a strategy which does have as its center an indictment of the whole structure of American life. There is a dynamic, then, which moves protestors to become “police.”


.... to stop traffic on highways, bridges (George Washington Bridge, NY, etc.), tunnels; to close Congress, State Houses, IRS offices, TV stations, etc.

And more is the pity regarding this dual system.  Summed up by this article:

http://www.pacinlaw.us/pdf/Dual_System.php

Here is another one that is going to get people in trouble with that state citizen thing.
I emailed the guy and this is what he had to say. I about fell out of my chair.

A state citizen is not under the jurisdiction of the alleged 14th Amendment.  There is case law on this

http://www.state-citizen.org/

Let's make a list page.

I used to think Bob was on to something, or at least willing to sacrifice a lot to bring attention to the illegality of the actions of congress, his redress of grievances issues, etc.. Apparently he's nothing more than a shill. Without focusing on the 14th Amendment his actions will come to no good. As LB and others have indicated, this is dangerous. Pity those who choose to continue to support WTP.

Thanks LB for the information and insight.  I had a bad gut feeling about the CC but could not articulate it.  What is disturbing is the ejection of the two attendees who were questioning the language of the documents. It reminds me of the Gestapo tactics used here in GA to marginalize the Ron Paulers.  The rules were changed on the Friday, leading into the GOP convention on Sat.  The change was to suspend the use of Robert's Rules of Order.  It was a corrupt steamroller and pretty much put an end to my participation in any GA politics, except for an excellent 10th Amendment candidate for gov in Ray McBerry. www.georgiafirst.org ; Keep up the good work.

Bob Shultz is a lawyer. Never trust a lawyer. I went along with the whole serving notice on my congressman thing. Nothing happened, no follow up, no nothing. Don't forget about the original 13th amendment. There hasn't been a lawful amendment since the so called civil war.

I put this up over on RTR and a gentleman who stated he was the delegate for Alabama placed this comment in the discussion:

"I am the sole delegate from Alabama that was there in attendance and I can tell you that every word said by Mr. Boyce is true. I was one of the first ones to start raising the red flags about the defintion of terrorism within the Patriot Act, and was telling everyone outside the meetings to be very careful. Mr. Boyce, myself, and another delegate planned and resolved the night before to raise this very serious question at the next day's proceedings and what was described is exactly what happened. I really enjoyed working with Mr. Boyce. Trust me, nobody else wanted this CC2009 to be successful more than he did, but restraint and careful thought is the better part of valor!"

Question:  For those of us who are still 14th Amendment citizens and may have supported the WTP Foundation in the past and still receive their e-mails... do we need to do anything to make sure we are not included in this potential mass arrest? I know the short answer is to become a State National, but I simply cannot do that at this point. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I have to agree with LB on this subject.  I have read MBs book Good to be King and he is a good teacher of the Constitution. But, Like Chuck, I feel they have made a grave mistake by incorporating as a 501c3. 

They obviously don't listen to brother Greggory. or they both have let their notariety go to their swollen heads.

Supported in what way?  Sending money and just receiving emails?  Have you signed anything?  I wouldn't really know the answer to that question, but would think if you sent money and just received emails, unsubscribing and not sending any more money would send a clear message.  Being involved with them by having signed something to support them, well...not sure.  Would think anyone who had signed something would just need to do what the delegates did.  Notify them you are not a party to their organization and do not support their beliefs in any way, shape, or form and send it via certified mail.

That's just my way of thinking, above, and that's basically what one does to get out of the de facto system of government and back to their de jure system of government.  It is not being silent in notifying all the agencies of government where we have entered into contract.  

Here's the beginning:

http://www.pacinlaw.us/pdf/Voter_Cancellation.php

The companion article to the Voter Cancellation:

http://www.pacinlaw.us/error

More in explanation of the dual system:

http://www.pacinlaw.us/pdf/Dual_System.php

Excerpt: "As the real intent and purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment took well over a century to accomplish, we can find that Congress passed law that made America one nationality.41 Such is found codified in Title 8 USC § 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth [in part]: “The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: A person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” 42 Such language is derived from the Fourteenth Amendment. Fortunately—as this politically imposed nationality is a fraud under international law—a remedy is provided; in regard to the lawful nationality, you may reference Title 8 of the United States Code—specifically section 1481—therein is the personal cure. The federal nationality de facto can be legally terminated under said section of Title 8. This puts a man (or woman) back to his original status under the principles of the original constitutional system."

Kurt and I were discussing the other day that Bob Schulz may just be dumb as a bag of hammers and lacks the capacity of critical thinking. The result is he may be being used by some others with an agenda.

I for one, do not trust Edward Vieira. Seems he wants people to form Militias, and then wants them to to go out and cause trouble. The people forming any Miltias do not have standing as they did under the original constitutional system.

Ripe for the pickens with all the Private Law that is now in place for US citizens/nationals, which includes the Patriot Acts, Hate Crime Act, etc. Something not right here, to say the least.

Comments welcome.

LB Bork wrote on Dec 3rd, 2009 at 9:28am:


Sounds like there are a bunch out there trying to piss a bunch of people off just enough to cause martial law. And that is just what they want. They want their slaves to get out of line so they can shut the constitution down take the guns away then it is over. Welcome to the New World Order!

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Swollen Heads

Answer is in the first paragraph of The Red Amendment :

CHAPTER ONE: OUTLINE OF THE DILEMMA
1.0  INTRODUCTION
This treatise describes a conspiracy more evil than any other the [U]nited States of America have seen in their many years of existence. The Fourteenth Amendment is a fully orchestrated conspiracy in its most uniquely veiled form, now over 135 years old. The conspiracy is in plain sight and understood by no one who is not one of the “enlightened” or of the Holy Spirit.

THESE PEOPLE LACK THE HOLY SPIRIT. END OF STORY.

FOR MORE INFORMATION, see www.pacinlaw.us/concerns

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No, you are doomed  

Just kidding... Keep your distance would be the best thing.