In the past I have butted heads with Gary Hunt of the Outpost of Freedom. This "US citizen" is taking Social Security benefits and thinks he is not a US citizen because he checked "other" on the form. This is a typical phenomena of a mind in this movement that fails to understand law; and it is the epitome of why there is a maxim of law that says, A man cannot judge his own cause. What this guy fails to understand is that the Social Security Act is private law and operates on certain people, those who are US citizens, i.e. those subject to the jurisdiction, and people who are under treaties who are in the United States from other countries, i.e. the "other" selection found on forms.

Wherefore, as I have stated time and time again, if you are acting properly (with a corrected status), you are invisible to the law, and accordingly will not show up on forms; hence you cannot fill them out.

This is why the adversary is undoubtedly laughing at the movement; there are too many self-important people who care not of the truth and just want to continue their delusion to their benefit. In regard, there has been some kind of panel put together with some so-called experts on these issues. Randy Mack is hosting this panel on a show that is coming up. I have been informed that in order to be part of it I would have to lie to people and tell them patriot rhetoric like all others do. Also the wonderful Joyce Rosenwald is to also be on this panel; another come-out-of-now-where expert who does not know her ass from a hole in the ground. But she has her own website with the address of her name. Yes folks, another self-important person, like Gary Hunt, that uses her name as the attraction. Not like the People's Awareness Coalition that maintains many people working as one. Oh, and one of my articles is on her site... Her modus operandi appears to be, taking others material and making fame with it. I am sure all these in mention are "sovereigns", like the adversary set-up under Hegelian Dialectic for people to follow that do not have a clue about the law.

Want to enjoy the delusion and dis/misinformation, the information is below:

Wednesday , Aug  8/18 ( 9:30 est / 7:30 MST )

http://www.youhavetreadonme.com/radio/you_have_tread_on_me_radio.html

Hosted by Randy Mack
Airs Sun, Mon & Tues
7:30 PM MST
Call In: (646) 716-4518

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Oh, and for those who think this is "my opinion", there is a big difference in funamental flaws and opinions.

LB Bork wrote on Aug 15th, 2010 at 1:33pm:


There are certainly no "fundamental flaws and opinions" in the regard that I am the one who called Gary Hunt to request you be on the panel. There is only the truth, and that's it.

True, you  two have "butted heads", true, in that he asked for an apology for personal attacks on him.  In so many words, he told me he would not abide personal attacks on people like calling them idiots, etc. However, he has absolutely no problem with you taking a different stance and disagreeing with anyone whatsoever.

You were never informed that you would have to lie "to lie to people and tell them patriot rhetoric like all the others do." That is, like some things that come to mind...

Only a matter of opinion, as the truth always stands, regardless.

I think I made a reference that not being able to note what is true is tantamount to a lie in an email. Maybe I was a bit harsh herein, but the attitudes of such people are they are right and you are the liar: stands to reason, right? The delusion, to me, is a lie... So I call a spade a spade. Would not hanging with liars make one look like one too? Sitting on a panel with some people that do not know law is fruitless; especially when the lot of them are collecting benefits as US citizens which would make what they say more appealing to people. What I would say would be lost.

Long and short, people have to seek the truth, and they have to find us on their own. I have been watching the stupidity for 15 years now... Most of you only for a year or two.... You don't get it yet... You may want to check the Bible (e.g., the remnant), it, the stupidity, has been going on for some time now.

Oh, and not to be able to tell the truth, i.e. call an idiot and idiot, is basically being forced to be a liar.
Sensitive socialist America... No wonder we are in a mess.

Point being, you would most certainly be able to tell the truth. By amicably disagreeing with the stances made and presenting factual information, when such is made that is wrong, goes a long way in that folks will hear such information for themselves. Some may still believe the hype that some on the panel present, but critical thinkers will perk up and listen when the facts are presented in law. The truth stands.

Can't win all the people listening, but there are those who will see through the deception, hear your facts presented, and that is the goal. However, the decision had alreay been made not to be on the panel.

Maybe you should contact the host, Randy Mack, and ask him. My contact said he worked things out with him.

I would need an email from him directly. I would still go on, but would have to have some chill pills... Anyone?

p.s. I was watching a chat on Mack's site last night... None of them understand law, or much of anything. They are the dangerous crowd that will cause a war... Just what the adversary wants. Good move to associate with them? I don't think so, but it seems there is some kind of mutiny going on lately.

I remind people that PAC has stayed in existence for 12 years because I have a good bullshit detector.

LB did you notice one of the names on the forum I believe you ban one of them.

I also have checked out the site and read the petition. They all have some sort of petition! It just seems like more patriot rhetoric to me. I can understand why LB wants to avoid the frustration.

Seems the best way to network with them would be to post in their chat and try to stir some interest there. I chatted with some of them last night and gave them my youtube link.

For those that are seeking knowlege, they should be able to connect with PAC if they check it out.

Jerry wrote on Aug 16th, 2010 at 2:47pm:


On their chat? I do not know... There is only one guy that has been ban, and one ousted.

Foundation and living by principles are the formula for success. Unfortunately people tend to be of the Reindeer ilk and don't want PAC to be Rudolf. How did that story come out in the end? Oh ya, Rudolf had something the others needed badly and he was begged to come and play with them then.

Any lights coming on here?

They can't compete with Rudolf because they can't see past the darkness of their lies.

I guess it's good that Jesus didn't associate with the people who didn't "get it".

Rudolph WANTED to be part of Santa's sleigh team, but was chided by OTHERS for being different. He saw no real difference, only a small red glow.

The metaphors don't work, so let's cut the bullshit.

L.B. has an opportunity to be a light in the darkness, and chooses to focus on the lack of illumination.

The only way people learn the truth is if someone is willing to speak it at every turn... the truth... and NOTHING ELSE.

A whole lot of "NOTHING ELSE" going on in this thread.

How can people see the difference unless they are offered SOMETHING ELSE?

Jerry wrote on Aug 16th, 2010 at 3:04pm:


Boy Jerry... That is getting into some deep thought there.

So, they're making fun of us now but someday they will be begging us to light their way. Kewl!

Mic Helms wrote on Aug 16th, 2010 at 3:16pm:


It is all here and has been for 12 years... Why should one go into a den of vipers and be angry.

Christ did that... I choose not to in this case, but will, like I said, if it is arranged. Right now there is no FORMAL invite, hence my metaphor works perfectly... PAC is not on board with their twisted beliefs and prejudices, i.e. the red nose, so we are not invited. And Mic, you were not privy to what was said about me in the chat, so you may want to stifle.

I might add to this nightmare, that Randy Mack (Macarenas) contacted me about a year ago to work with him. He was looking also at working with Gary Hunt. As I knew Gary Hunt does not have much of a legal mind and therefore is dangerous to the end goal, I declined. Here we (they) are today with a bowl of crap that will get nowhere.