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Poll Question: Guardians of the Free Republics/Grand Juries. Will it work?
Yes. Explain in comment why you feel this will work.
  2 (3.8%)
No. Explain in comment why you feel this will not work.
  21 (39.6%)
They are of a purpose to divide the movement.
  15 (28.3%)
They are spreading disinformation.
  13 (24.5%)
They are going to save us!
  2 (3.8%)
Total votes: 53
You may select more than one answer, and members please comment.
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Jerry
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Re: Guardians of the Free Republics Poll
Reply #60 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 10:36am
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Hey where is David? I need some more legal exercises. Hey David if you come back tell me how you are using the (Great Seal) to do what you think you are doing. Are you having trouble finding the answers to our questions? If the United States is a State then that means there are 51 states right. It does have a Great Seal to you know. Smiley

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Re: Guardians of the Free Republics Poll
Reply #61 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 7:39am
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OH David where you at.

Here is some UCC fun for you.

Just decided  McLaughlin v CitiMortgage

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9199911945608893685&hl=en&lr=lang_en...

Count Eight, labeled “No Contract,” see Am. Compl. [doc. # 67-1] at 20 ¶ 1, also fails to state a
claim. In that count, Mr. Ade Bey once more invokes the UCC, and also alleges fraudulent
inducement; “unnecessary harassment”; “torture”; “Enticement to Slavery,” in violation of 18
U.S.C. § 1583; and a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 242, which punishes the deprivation of rights
under color of law. See id. Most of these allegations are entirely conclusory and merely repeat
claims already discussed and rejected. As for what remains, even if Mr. Ade Bey had alleged
facts to support these fantastical allegations — which he has not done — it is well settled that
neither 18 U.S.C. § 242 nor § 1583, both of which are criminal statutes, provide a private right of
action. See Dugar v. Coughlin, 613 F. Supp. 849, 852 n.1 (S.D.N.Y. 1985); Risley v. Hawk, 918

The “Redemptionist” theory seems to explain Mr. Ade Bey’s relationship to the all-capital letter
“RAYMOND MCLAUGHLIN.” As the Third Circuit has explained:


[T]he “Redemptionist” theory . . . propounds that a person has a split personality: a real
person and a fictional person called the “strawman.” The “strawman” purportedly came
into being when the United States went off the gold standard in 1933, and, instead,
pledged the strawman of its citizens as collateral for the country’s national debt.
Redemptionists claim that government has power only over the strawman and not over
the live person, who remains free. Individuals can free themselves by filing UCC
financing statements, thereby acquiring an interest in their strawman. . . . Adherents of
this scheme also advocate that [individuals] copyright their names to justify filing liens
against officials using their names in public records such as indictments or court papers.

I've seen variations of "Redemption" , "Strawman", "UCC", "Admiralty", etc. arguments & for longer than that they've been shot down, but they're still being promoted & what's worse, people looking for that "silver bullet" are still buying.


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Re: Guardians of the Free Republics Poll
Reply #62 - Dec 4th, 2010 at 3:00pm
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I went down that rabbit trail. Found out about the strawman theory and other things and quickly decided this was another disinformation scheme. May God open their eyes to the truth.
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