The Marxist Monkeys that make sure every US citizen stays in line.
Their job is to make sure that all such citizens pay use tax on the unlawful money (see Ttile 12 USC Sec. 411)

Below is the general list of criteria that Quatloo's lists, that they appear to not follow:

Tax Protestors, Pure Trusts, and Other Stupid De-Tax Schemes & Scams
Have a stupid theory why you shouldn't have to pay taxes? 861? Non-Filer? Sovereign Citizen? Believe that the federal courts are actually admiralty courts or that the only real citizens of the USA live in Puerto Rico, Guam, and the District of Columbia, then this forum is for you. Also considers Pure Trusts in all of its scam forms, including Constitutional Trusts, Patriot Trusts, Unincorporated Business Organizations, COLATOS, as well as the Corporation Sole scam, and "Make Yourself into a Church" in all variants.
• More here : http://www.quatloos.com/general/backgrnd.htm

For the record, I nor PAC have ever advocated any of the above listed subjects.

Well, PAC has been a long time advocate of Quatloos weeding-out the bad people in the movement who fail to follow the law; but now it appears something new has been added... They appear to now fail to look at the facts and are running on the principle of Pavlov's dog, i.e. they see some word and instead of researching or reasoning further, they just bite. And these people claim to know law and fail to use the rules of evidence.

Although PAC has been around longer then these "people" of Quatloos (most of them hiding behind monikers, i.e. real brave souls. LOL), they have gone outside the original scope of the intent of the site and gone into the political realm of listing "Sovereign Citizens" as a target of scrutiny. Off-point, but nonetheless, they (Tony the Wonder Llama, a.k.a. Jay D. Adkisson) are listing "LB Bork" under a general list of "sovereign citizen" positions.

Oh yes, Quatloos is under "Insurgency Agents" due to the fact it (they are) is practicing "Gate Keeper" * methods by ignoring the facts and law on several grounds. Denial of due process appears to be the flavor of the day for not only agencies of the governments, but the "monikers" of Quatloos too. Stay tuned as we will be listing the law breakers (deceivers) of the Quatloos team of gang-bangers (as in ganging up like rapists) by name in this thread. We know how they operate by side-stepping questions and issues so this will be fun, guaranteed.

Moreover, they will get a slot in the Island Makers Project also for herding de facto citizens into the corral.

• Jay Adkisson site : http://www.jayadkisson.com

I will be posting more on these "Facts Deniers" in the thread. Again, they will get posted on the Island Makers Project as 'gate keepers' due to the fact they fail to acknowledge the whole truth and default to fallacious positions of which appear to backup the Marxist political/legal agenda. Of course, those people with open minds understand that this whole thing is not only grounded in principles of law, but depends on the political side of the law to operate.

By the way, the "Facts Denier" is a spinoff the term "Tax Denier", which has replaced "Tax Protestor".

These guys sure do get down to working out their terms of attack for the lapdogs** to use 

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* Gate Keeper. This is a person or organization that is put in place to keep people pacified with a certain level of information. Such is of purpose to guard the whole truth of what the real problem may be.
** Lapdog. Someone who is under the control of another due to the lack of critical thought, or
being subsidized in some fashion, which may include monetary gain or immunity.

This exmilitary general explains how communist lapdogs attack character.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7w3ZEbC09k

As I predicted, these people are children (and idiots) as they act (speak) without knowledge.
They have been told what to think for too long. The black robes surely have cast a spell.

See the worthless blather, side-stepping questions, name calling, and ad hominem attacks here...

• http://quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=6380

I predict they will delete the thread... And members are already requesting it be done (see below).
One of the Mods actually thinks that it will do damage to "LB Bork" (see below). How arrogant of them.
They have not proving anything as to why "LB Bork" is on that list. How ignorant of them. 

Aside that, any advertising is good advertising, as it is said.

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• Assumption is the mother of all defamation tort actions.

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And they would not even define Resident!

Lawyers, what a hoot.

Jerry wrote on Sep 30th, 2010 at 11:02am:

Yeah, they really are a bunch of tools. After them a rather long and detailed discourse by LB debunking the "Sovereign" position, they still believe he should be lumped in as one who promotes the "sovereign" BS.

Total products of deception in how they actually believe their own BS

Okay, I have pegged one of the biggest delusional operatives (lapdog) on the Quatloos' site : Daniel B. Evans

Actually, it is the guy that you spoke of Jerry. Evans is the one that brought-up the point about leaving out "resident" is the 26 CFR 1.11 in the article Income Tax, Do You Volunteer? He never did specify what the issue was, but rather defaulted to a non-critical thinking state and attempted to pigeonhole the issue with some key word(s). The fact of the matter is that the "resident" issue is gone over in the article, but Evans would not address the legal references as it would cause his worthless position to fail. I found it interesting that he and others failed to address the matters in the mentioned article of which they disagreed with and had to go elsewhere and evidence things in half-truths to make a case; and also said they did not have to address anything they did not want to. These are typical tactics of deceivers of which attorneys are good at. Another thing they are good at is studying law via case law. How do they know if the court is right or wrong if they do not know the law? And I am not talking about statutes.

Here is the evidence that he is an idiot, or totally delusional. The sign of a true idiot/tool.
Look at a couple comments he made in a thread... It is totally unbelievable.

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Do you see some contradictions there? Either double-speak or psychopathic behavior. It is scary as these are the people that control things, ignorant, unthinking, tools, who do what they are told.

• Evans has a website at : http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html

There is a lot of good information to garner from there. It will show you what NOT to do.

Unfortunately, idiots, such as Evans, like to mix apples and oranges up, i.e. attempt go jam square pegs into round holes in regard to using someone else's facts and law on other people. They really fail to understand the denial of due process that is attached by using case law. In regard, a handy note to explain the denial of due process issue:

• Using case law against someone who may have a whole different set of facts applied to him is kind of like making a guy wear someone else's underwear that does not fit, and may even be dirty.

You see, sometimes you have to give an example in common language to make a point.

These guys do not know law very well, as you can see. Moreover, there is little or no process of critical thinking amongst them. However, there are some nice people who seem to be there in earnest and not on some programmed program as obvious bootlickers. Here was some insight on how these guys have been programmed to attack anyone that is not into their Marxist political program that has taken over the United States of America.

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Lapdog. As a general rule, a person who is under the control of another due to having a lack of morals and
are willing to "sellout" to their people for a position of power or recognition. Such persons may be
subsidized in some fashion which may include monetary gain or immunity.

Here is a total moronic QUATTARD, CaptainKickback. It appears he read the Red:

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Just joking... Knowing these fabricators by their actions, I bet he does not even know what TRA looks like. Of course we will find out soon I am sure. He may provide us some offer of proof to clear his good name from looking like someone who makes up things on the fly. People on Quatloos would not do that, would they?

Based on the comments I have seen, this guy could not find his way out of a wet paper bag, I am thinking. He started a thread and used one of the typical idiotic positions of those who are against the 14th Amendment are racists. EPIC FAIL!

Critical thinking for this guy is not even an option. You can see the fun at this thread here :

• http://quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=6381&p=104105

I may not say too much more there, as you can see I pretty much nailed all moronic statements on all points.

Bye-the-way, has anyone seen this lapdog CaptainKickback's definition for "sovruns"? I sure he and his friends have one. I think he really fits into the 82% club that is found in his sigline :

• The 82% Rule: 82% of the people in the world are total idiots,
  13% have a vague idea of what is going on and 5% are truly aware.

Also, that "Pottapaug1938" is on the way for a good beat-down, as he says some pretty stupid things.

Well, there is some compassion, stating that lightly :

• It's not proved that Bork is pushing "sovereign citizen" <redacted>. He's denying some of the rhetoric, but using different words for what seems to be the same concepts. He's certainly a "tax protestor", as defined by the courts. (The IRS is no longer allowed to use the term "tax protestor".) The distinction between a United States citizen and a "14th Amendment Citizen" is one of the key "sovereign" tenets, and he uses the term "United States citizen who is participating in the 14th Amendment governmental system", which looks to be much the same thing.

"He's (Bork) certainly a "tax protestor" " 

Hmmm... This guy must have some information on my status that I do not know about. See, that is a presumption. Aside that major error, actually the forum member who sent that to me is one who appears to be okay, but you never know about anyone. Aside that, you can see that they throw everyone into the same box without any set of facts or law whatsoever to backup their accusations. This is a major denial of due process and is a criminal act by the perpetrators.

Having some sympathy for the socialist army of lapdogs that maintain this insurgent government, it is not hard to understand a delineation when the "arrogant" United States uses words like "Whoever" to describe who or what a code reference covers. Even the Roman Empire acknowledged that they lacked jurisdiction over Christ, for what it mattered. One can venture that the United States has power to control anyone in the Universe with its language.

This space is reserved for Quatloos "wserra". This guy is a major deceiver and fabricator of information.

• Assumption is the mother of all defamation tort actions.

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That was taken from a thread on the Quatloos forum. 

I got my own thread courtesy of this legal Einstein. See the childishness of the Quattards here:

• http://quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=6389

I feel really honored. They broke the Quatloos 100 post rule. They must feel really threatened.

LB Bork wrote on Sep 30th, 2010 at 3:00pm:

http://www.iromlaw.com/Bio/WesleySerra.asp

Here is a Quattard that "appears" to be a knowledgeable Quatloos board member, but likes to commit overt acts of deception. He goes by the moniker "The Operative". Yes, buy his actions of defending the obscure legal system as he does one would venture that he is really an operative. One must understand that this system that was put into place via the 14th Amendment cannot maintain its existence without its operatives.

To start off with this obvious LIVING CONSTITUTION advocate, I asked this tool to read the law reviews that we have posted in the section of the 14th Amendment. He gladly posted this in reference to the law reviews by Yale that went over the word "person" in Section 1 of the 14th Amendment:

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As he argued that the "citizens of the United States" of the 14th Amendment are no different than the citizens before the amendment, I actually thanked him for proving that the government did create legal entities (natural persons) by incorporating the Law of Persons (Sohm) into Section 1 of the 14th Amendment. This also illustrated that these people are under a system of private law, not public law.

Accordingly, one issue that I have asserted is that the government is not the same as the original system and is deemed de facto in view of the political system and in law. He said I had no facts to back up my assertions and would not accept any information on the PAC sites. To further reference the political change, I evidenced a naturalization act from 1802* that shows a definite "State Citizenship" in contraposition to the current so-called national/federal/dual citizenship that is established under the 14th Amendment. That illustrated the political change.

Another thing he choose to raise issue with was the assertion that we are under military rule (or dictatorship). Again, he would not accept anything on the PAC sites so I brought up the control of Americans via Executive Orders. He appeared to want all of them, which is totally unreasonable, so I used Executive Order 6102 as an example. This particular one is termed "The Gold Hoarding EO of April 1933" of which the dictator (President) orders people to turn over their property to the federal government:

• I, Franklin D. Roosevelt, President of the United States of America, do declare that said national emergency still continues to exist and pursuant to said section to do hereby prohibit the hoarding gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States by individuals, partnerships, associations and corporations and hereby prescribe the following regulations for carrying out the purposes of the order:
  
  Section 1. For the purpose of this regulation, the term 'hoarding" means the withdrawal and withholding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates from the recognized and customary channels of trade. The term "person" means any individual, partnership, association or corporation.
  http://www.the-privateer.com/1933-gold-confiscation.html

For your information, this is how to detect "private law" when looking at statutory construction, etc.:

• "The term "person" means any individual, partnership, association or corporation."

One can see that people (14th Amendment citizens) were mandated to turn over their "property" by the orders of a dictator. Below is a comment that THE OPERATIVE made in regard to a debate on Executive Orders:

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I stated to him, "You have got to be joking? Show me in the Constitution where the federal government has the power to come in and demand gold (PROPERTY) from people." He comes back with the 5th Amendment clause "nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation".

At the same time he also, as a false badge of honor, put my statement in his signature line to mock me.

First I retorted by saying I used the word "people", not "person" which covers matters that relate to "private property" in private law. Advising him that his position failed, I told him he could remove the false badge of honor from his sigline, but refused. I than noted that he removed the word "gold" from my statement which appears to change my position as a matter of law. The clause in the 5th Amendment in regard to private property encompasses "real property (land)", not "property (things)".  After calling him on it after a few minutes, he put the word "gold" back in his signature line; however this just makes him look like a total idiot as his position in law is totally unfounded.

By what he stated I am thinking that he believes his board buddies are going to come-in to back him up, but it appears that his buddies are leaving him hang for his stupidity. I perceive they can see I beat him down in spades on this one.

The Operative of Quatloos is just another delusional lapdog who lives the "American Scheme" and is a deceiver.

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Screen shot of the last post: http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/images/quattard_operative_01.jpg

Demosthenes = JJ MacNab, an obvious government lapdog who also is in with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

• This one has her own thread: http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/NMG.pl?num=1286326748

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Lapdog. As a general rule, a person who is under the control of another due to having a lack of morals and
are willing to "sellout" to their people for a position of power or recognition. Such persons may be
subsidized in some fashion which may include monetary gain or immunity.

I wish someday I could make those guys at Quatloos eat their words...
But that will never happen and they know they are lying.

Trying so hard to keep people from not knowing that each state is it's own nation.
I did notice that none of the lawyers got into the conversation. I could be wrong though.

Geoff J wrote on Sep 30th, 2010 at 5:40pm:


Oh boy! Appears to possibly chase ambulances. I guess there are not enough to chase these days, as he feels he has to assist in keeping the Marxist system afloat by tattling on people.

Larry Williams, aka Famspear, was one of the MAINTAINERS (or Gate Keepers) that got the Wikipedia article taken down. Remember the rule, you cannot have a system that operates on unlawful principles without criminals keeping it afloat. The Quattards seem to do a great job monitoring the Net.

Oh, it seems like he is keeping an eye on Bob Hurt of Florida. Nice of him to do so:

• http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6159

This illustrates what idiots they are on Quatloos (incompetent attorneys, like I have stated): They make light of people who provide positive identification via finger print on documents, but the National Notary Association uses it as a practice (e.g., see the recent poll below). What else do these tattle tailing incomp-Quattards have wrong? 

NNA Poll: Suspicious Identification Document

In this era of rampant identity theft, the role of the Notary Public as gatekeeper against fraud is tougher than ever. Notaries often encounter questionable identification documents, but alert Notaries can spot signs of altered or counterfeit IDs before notarizations occur. This month, the Notary Bulletin wants to know:
How did you identify a suspicious ID presented to you?

How did you identify a suspicious ID presented to you?
  I saw signs of tampering on the ID.
  I saw the ID information didn’t match the signer’s picture, description or signature.
  I was presented with a photocopy of the ID instead of the original.
  I became suspicious after the signer wouldn’t leave a thumbprint in my journal.
  I don’t know how to tell if an ID is fake or genuine.
  I’ve never been presented with a suspicious ID to my knowledge .

Results will be posted in the January edition of the Notary Bulletin.

http://www.nationalnotary.org/bulletin/bulletinpoll.cfm