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Message started by WIZARD on Feb 11th, 2011 at 1:24am

Title: They Have it Backwards
Post by WIZARD on Feb 11th, 2011 at 1:24am
Vermont Legislature to Consider Bill Saying Corporations are not People

(It should be that "people" ARE NOT Corporations, ie; 14th "Citizens')
and YES, I copy/pasted the below:


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Vermont Legislature to Consider Bill Saying Corporations are not People Valley Advocate

Vermont: Corporations Aren't People

Vermont lawmakers push back on High Court's Citizens United ruling

Thursday, February 10, 2011
By Tom Sturm

The wording of a new resolution brought to the Vermont State Legislature by state senator Virginia Lyons is stark and unambiguous: "The profits and institutional survival of large corporations are often in direct conflict with the essential needs and rights of human beings." Corporations, the resolution continues, "have used their so-called rights to successfully seek the judicial reversal of democratically enacted laws," leaving democratically elected governments "ineffective in protecting their citizens against corporate harm to the environment, health, workers, independent business, and local and regional economies."

Lyons introduced the bill on the recent first anniversary of the U.S. Supreme Court's controversial Citizens United decision, which, through Byzantine interpretations of precedents that gave corporations "personhood" via the 14th Amendment, allowed them the same First Amendment rights as citizens are granted under the Constitution. President Obama somewhat boldly addressed members of the court at last year's State of the Union Address, saying the decision would "open the floodgates for special interests-including foreign corporations-to spend without limit in our elections."

More here....

Title: Re: They Have it Backwards
Post by LB Bork on Feb 11th, 2011 at 11:40am
Shows you how stupid these LAW MAKERS are about law, and how out-of-touch everyone is.
They do not know fascism (corporate overpower) when it hits them in the face.

GOOD GRIEF... Nothing does happen by accident!

Title: Re: They Have it Backwards
Post by Jerry on Feb 11th, 2011 at 12:06pm
How can a corporation own land if it is not considered a person?

This rule of construction is specified in 1 U.S.C. §1 which states:

  • In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, unless the context indicates otherwise— The words “person” and “whoever” include corporations, companies, associations, firms, partnerships, societies, and joint stock companies, as well as individuals.
This federal statute has many consequences. For example, a corporation is allowed to own property and enter contracts. It can also sue and be sued and held liable under both civil and criminal law. As well, because the corporation is legally considered the "person"... reference


Title: Re: They Have it Backwards
Post by LB Bork on Feb 11th, 2011 at 2:56pm
Jerry, please give references. Plus, I had to clean-up what you posted as I had to cite the reference.

And, WIZARD.... Do not post articles without a reference, or the whole articles (due to copyright infringements).

Title: Re: They Have it Backwards
Post by Jerry on Feb 11th, 2011 at 8:41pm
Ok I will take that punch. God said I was not..............see what happens!
Maybe I ran out of time at the moment. If you don't want me here just get the balls and say so.   [smiley=solong.gif]

Title: Re: They Have it Backwards
Post by LB Bork on Feb 12th, 2011 at 12:09am

Jerry wrote on Feb 11th, 2011 at 8:41pm:
Ok I will take that punch. God said I was not..............see what happens!
Maybe I ran out of time at the moment. If you don't want me here just get the balls and say so.   [smiley=solong.gif]

I want EVERYONE here... Just try to articluate... The adversary is a worthy adversary.

Title: Re: They Have it Backwards
Post by Jerry on Feb 12th, 2011 at 3:10pm
Hey they didn't teach me that... so I am in a learning curve again. Hell they didn't teach us anything to think of it!!!!

LB I understand what you are saying just give it time. I know they look for sloppy remenber they taught us that.   

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