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Title: therightofselfdetermination.com Post by LB Bork on Apr 18th, 2010 at 11:35am
Welcome to The Right of Self Determination ~ therightofselfdetermination.com | Matrix Solutions
More of the "pay me to get any information" people. Lots of scare tactic stories to get you to join, but little or no educational material otherwise. Preaching that people (individuals) have access to international law, which is false;* moreover, what is professed is more in line with a national status of a people, not individuals like "Ambassador" David Williams professes. Yes, this guy is an Ambassador... One of a different jurisdiction, so he says. Haiti, perhaps. If not, and he believes he is of a rightful state here in the United States of America, he fails to understand how de facto governments operate, so it appears. Talk about misleading people, Ambassador Dave. This guy reminds me of the "sovereign citizen" issue being an agent provocateur operation to make people islands so the usurpers may maintain control of the countries they have stolen. Also, appears to be set-up to be a multi-level marketing deal with the "Affiliate Program", which PAC will never get into as it attracts the wrong people. Overall, more divide and conquer via greed doings; and, may be another agent provocateur operation. He has been said to let the system stay as it is and create your own sovereign body of yourself. State Nationals Society has lawful access to this principle,* not these "Island Makers". Comments welcome. __________ * The real definition of The right of self-determination:
Common Article 1, paragraph 1 of these Covenants provides that: "All peoples have the rights of self-determination. By virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development." |
Title: Re: therightofselfdetermination.com Post by LB Bork on Apr 18th, 2010 at 11:36am
George sent this to me. Says he is stating falsehoods about what PAC is doing.
LB Bork mention about 51 minutes in : Like stated above, more scare tactics to get you to join and pay. |
Title: Re: therightofselfdetermination.com Post by Sandra Lynn on Apr 18th, 2010 at 10:27pm
When he gave them honor they made him an ambassador. What a load of crap!
He said LB Bork offers no solutions. Does he know about state nationals? I guess we're all supposed to write letters of self determination and honor them so we can become ambassadors to the pope like him. Apparently, it takes all kinds. Just when you think you've seen them all, here comes another one! |
Title: Re: therightofselfdetermination.com Post by Jerry on Apr 19th, 2010 at 7:23am
He said also no one will debate him and he only said LB's name at that point.
It sounds like they are trying to do damage control. I also love how the one guy said it all just came out. That is a load of BS. I have always felt like something was wrong but never could put my finger on it until I came here. And it only will come out through learning the truth and not just taking someone's word for it. And about 31 min. in he talks about the founders. That line is all wrong all twisted and backwards if my mind serves me right will explain later. And build our own nation state!! Wrong. And he has been trained in the courts!! RED FLAGS ARE FLYING NOW!!!!!!!! Oh he is one of those that had to get out of the country to change his status!! Ok you stateless person. This is stated 35 min. in. Yea let's debate. |
Title: Re: therightofselfdetermination.com Post by LB Bork on Aug 20th, 2010 at 10:05am
For those who wonder where some of the State Nationals are, here is one of them who only cares about himself from New Hampshire... He appears to be teaming up with those off-point people who misuse the "right of self determination" premise. Got this off the site:
In addition, Bork has some denouncement of “forming a new Compact-State” on his website. I haven’t read it, but someone sent me an email about it. What I find interesting about the “detractors” of the Right of Self-Determination is this: IT’S THE SAME REACTION THAT THE FOUNDERS OF THE U.S.A. GOT FROM THEIR BRITISH “BRETHREN” WHEN THEY WROTE THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. Interesting, don’t you think? Nothing new under the sun.….things don’t change. So, if you want change…it’s you…it’s us; we have to change. LB BORK and the others have no solution. Therefore, they are angry at the system; but it is exactly that anger which prevents them from moving forward. It’s the anger at the system that keeps them locked into the system. Forgive it. Let it go…and move on. That’s the first step to Freedom. The fact is, I have had the answer for about 12 years now and everyone is so cheap and so self-centered that they will not stay centered. You see, things do not get done because everyone is bouncing around to find some silver bullet that does not exist; also they want their cake and eat it too. We will never get things fixed with everybody having an individual greed factor going on. And by the way, Bob never did really finish up and become part of the State Nationals Society... It is obvious, even though he compliments me, Bob has no discernment, which I have known this for sometime now. Apparently he is too busy looking for that silver bullet for himself that does not exist. Oh, and Bob also went down the UCC path with Jack Smith and others. Prime example of the "island" mentality that Matrix Solutions is pushing. More here on the "self-centered" individual : |
Title: Re: therightofselfdetermination.com Post by LB Bork on Nov 13th, 2010 at 5:53pm
More thoughts on this questionable enterprise here:
Oh, and I am finding out that individuals like titles like "Ambassador" as David Williams has implemented. What a great "Pied Piper" tool for the unexpecting Patriotard. |
Title: Plant [?], Williams frightened of PAC Post by LB Bork on Dec 23rd, 2011 at 11:44am
It appears that self-appointed "Ambassador Williams" is afraid of the truth of what is exposed by PAC.
Much so that he has taken much time to attempt to sway his groupies into more Kool-Aid that he purports...
No…they run like cockroaches." Matter of fact, we will be executing an action that is monumental this coming year. And, this is a lie...
There is no need for me to go into such blatherings as he has to attempt to prove him wrong as he attempted to do me. The truth speaks for itself. PAC is about fixing what has been wronged. Not giving ourselves fairytale titles and running from our rights. Learn the truth about the [dis]information Williams provides you for his fee. On another note, notice he calls me names... I did not go there on him. And if "Ambassador" Williams' mother did actually pass on, my condolences. Still not something to air in public and he used it as a tool. Once again, leave the United States like "Ambassador" Williams wants you to. Give-up and get out of the way like the adversary wants you to. Oh, and "Ambassador" Williams says that the states are not countries?
Remember, you can get tons of writings that are backed-up with authorities from PAC: Free! You do not have to pay a healthy fee to learn how to leave your country of birth and its posterity like "Ambassador" Williams suggests. And "Ambassador" Williams calls me a PAYTRIOT. The pot calling the kettle black, I see. Run Away!... From the New World Order. Yeah, that will work. LOL More comments here on "Ambassador" Williams: http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/NMG.pl?num=1289514713 p.s. Williams appears to be friendly with Mike Golden. This is a guy that sent me a computer printer with no packing thus came to me totaled. Plus, he heard from Kurt Kallenbach who told him half the story about the subject in mention. Figures... See Kallenbach thread for his modus operandi. These are the people he attracts? LOL |
Title: Re: therightofselfdetermination.com Post by LB Bork on Dec 23rd, 2011 at 3:58pm
They say that any advertising is good advertising... Note that therightofselfdetermination.com is bringing up my name twice in Google search. Also, PAC is right under the "Ambassador's" site. LOL
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Title: Re: Plant [?], Williams frightened of PAC Post by Jerry on Dec 23rd, 2011 at 6:03pm
Ambassador Williams. What nation do you represent? And who gave you permission to do so?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassador Or maybe you are on of these. Which on is it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassador_(disambiguation) [smiley=hmmm.gif] [smiley=lol.gif] |
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