The 2010 Census is a Farce. It totally violates the purpose for which it is taken, which is providing the number of citizens for computation of congressional representation. Based on the questions provided there is no way to achieve this whatsoever as they are just asking the questions of who is in the dwelling.

• Download a PDF Article on the subject here : http://www.pacinlaw.us/pdf/Census_Farce_2010.php
  

As the 2010 Census violates Section 2 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution, no one should fill it out and refuse it for legal cause. Put REFUSED FOR LEGAL CAUSE on the envelope and give it to the Census Taker when s/he comes to the door. Tell the Census Taker that you have determined that there is no way for them to get a correct total of the number of people for apportionment of representation (the main reason for the Census, so THEY say.) with the questions asked; hence you refuse to fill it out; also, that you want their name and want to add them to the information that is holding the parties concerned with fraud and send him/her packing down the road.

Is the above legal advice? Perhaps.

• "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...
                    They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." --Thomas Jefferson

Look at this scary quote from the Census website...

How We Count America

The census numbers tell us who we are and what we need.

Before we begin a new chapter in American history, we need to understand who we are right now.
The 2010 Census aims to count all U.S. residents—citizens and non-citizens alike.

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/how-we-count.php


What the hell is that suppose to mean?  [smiley=what.gif]

Nonetheless, they are admitting the fraud in their own words.

Am I not in rebellion? Then I can not complain.
I don't see what you are getting at in Section 2 [smiley=reading.gif]

LB Bork wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 10:38am:

Before we begin a new chapter in American history...

I'd rather not read that chapter, thank you very much!

Jerry wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 11:00am:

Am I not in rebellion? Then I can not complain. I don't see what you are getting at in Section 2 [smiley=reading.gif]

The point is, the 14th Amendment Insurgents are not even following the rules of their insurgency.

JWJones wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 11:09am:

LB Bork wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 10:38am: Before we begin a new chapter in American history... I'd rather not read that chapter, thank you very much!

That statement on the site scares the hell out of me  [smiley=unsure.gif]

JWJones wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 11:09am:

LB Bork wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 10:38am: Before we begin a new chapter in American history... I'd rather not read that chapter, thank you very much!

I would prefer to not read it either, however... SN or not, we'll be reading it all around. I'm reading the 4th Reich... we're entrenched and have been for a long time. Most people don't understand the depth of the entrenchment...still believing BUSH was a great guy... because if they "talk" like a good guy...they must BE a good guy.

I just read Section 2 of the 14th and it says: "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of "persons" in each state, ............

It says 'persons'..... it doesn't say citizens.   So I would like to know how we got to be certain that the census' constitutional mandate is to count citizens instead of simply 'persons.'    

I am not opposed to our position.   I guess I am looking for the information underlying our coalition statement that we are on solid ground.  What has occurred that led us to say we are now on solid footing?   

I am new to this forum and look forward to learning a great deal so I can be an effective defender of our Constitution and member of this good organization.   But I can't say the census is not following the Constitution on a 'say so' .. even from my own group. 

Thank you

wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 1:14pm:

I just read Section 2 of the 14th and it says: "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of "persons" in each state, ............ It says 'persons'..... it doesn't say citizens.   So I would like to know how we got to be certain that the census' constitutional mandate is to count citizens instead of simply 'persons.'     I am not opposed to our position.   I guess I am looking for the information underlying our coalition statement that we are on solid ground.  What has occurred that led us to say we are now on solid footing?    I am new to this forum and look forward to learning a great deal so I can be an effective defender of our Constitution and member of this good organization.   But I can't say the census is not following the Constitution on a 'say so' .. even from my own group.  Thank you

I also went into the codes and it keep referring to corporations.

A person, for legal purposes, is generally more broadly defined to refer other than just a natural person. A person may also include a corporation, company, partnership, firm, association or society. For example, when a company incorporates, it has standing as a legal person to sue and be sued in courts of law. The precise definition of a person may vary by state and applicable laws.

Hey there, Ellar7

Amongst the BS on the Census Website in regard to "them" following the Constitution, note they admit they are counting everyone under God's Green Earth (within the geographical boundaries subject to the jurisdiction of the US):

• "Before we begin a new chapter in American history, we need to understand who we are right now.
  The 2010 Census aims to count all U.S. residents—citizens and non-citizens alike."
  

A common misconception of most ALL people is that "state" means a geographical location : It does not. The term "state" is the body politic or the government of such body politic. And for clarification, a people (a nation) live in a country, and each "state" is a country. The word or term "country" generally references a geographical location. The insidious 14th Amendment of the insurgents/rebels formulates all Americans to be "residents", as Vattel sets forth that a "resident" is a man in a country not his own.* That is to say, all US citizens (aka, citizens and nationals of the United States [Title 8 USC Sec. 1401]) are living in the false nation/country called "America", and not in their true countries. That is where they get away with saying they are counting ALL RESIDENTS.

The thing is, these 14th Amendment insurgents are not even following their own Constitution.

• "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State..." Section 2, 14th Amendment
  

Understand that, citizens = persons

And, now note : "...the whole number of persons in each State" = "...the whole number of citizens in each body politic"

To get the rest of the story on Section 2 of the 14th Amendment formula, Click Here

See this information on the PAC site : http://www.pacinlaw.us/status

So, there is not in any way, shape, or form that they will be able to figure apportionment for representatives.
The 2010 Census is a data mining expedition for the Communist New World Order government.

• Download a PDF Article on the subject here : http://www.pacinlaw.us/pdf/Census_Farce_2010.php
  

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* “Residents (or inhabitants), as distinguished from citizens, are aliens who are permitted to take up permanent abode in the country.” --The Law of Nations or Principles of the Law of Nature, Emer de Vattel (1820) - Chapter XIX, section 213.

LB Bork wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 9:19am:

The 2010 Census is a Farce. It totally violates the purpose for which it is taken, which is providing the number of citizens for computation of congressional representation. Based on the questions provided there is no way to achieve this as they are just asking the questions of who is in the dwelling. As the 2010 Census violates Section 2 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution, no one should fill it out and refuse it for legal cause. Put REFUSED FOR LEGAL CAUSE on the envelope and give it to the Census taker when s/he comes to the door. Tell the Census taker you want their name and want to add them to the information that is charging the parties concerned with fraud and send him/her packing down the road. Is the above legal advice? Perhaps. "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...                   They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." --Thomas Jefferson

This is great information. Also... It would not hurt to have a NO TRESPASS sign at your door. Not No Trespassing...But Trespass. Get rid of the ING. When he/she show up...point to it and have them move on.

The de facto government of Virginia has their own special definition for person:

§ 1-230. Person.

"Person" includes any individual, corporation, partnership, association, cooperative, limited liability company, trust, joint venture, government, political subdivision, or any other legal or commercial entity and any successor, representative, agent, agency, or instrumentality thereof.

" OR ANY OTHER LEGAL OR COMMERCIAL ENTITY?" Really?. So the insurgent government of Virginia defines a person as an individual who is a legal or commercial entity. Conversely, someone who is not a legal or commercial entity is neither an individual nor a person in Virginia. Thanks Virginia for making that crystal clear. Who would have guessed.

VAsolvo wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 2:30pm:

" OR ANY OTHER LEGAL OR COMMERCIAL ENTITY?"

Yep, people that are US citizens are legal entities...
                              And treated as such under "commercially grounded" private law. 

And remember kiddies, the Communist Manifesto of 1848 says :

• "The Communists are further reproached with desiring to abolish countries and nationality."

Quote:

This is great information. Also... It would not hurt to have a NO TRESPASS sign at your door. Not No Trespassing...But Trespass. Get rid of the ING. When he/she show up...point to it and have them move on.

That is exactly what is posted in numerous areas about the parcel that I currently "rent" from the county.

This info came a little too late for me.

Last Sunday 2 Census people came to my house, introduced themselves, showed me their little badges and asked if I had a few minutes to answer a few questions.

My response: Sure, as long as it is constitutional and they assured me that it was (LOL)
I told them that according to the constitution the only information I had to give is how many people live in this house and that number is 3. Everything else is none of their business.

They wanted to know my name and the Slip number (I live in a floating house in a marina) and I told them that is none of their business either. They thanked me and left.

Everything was said in a nice and friendly way. No one was getting upset or agressive.

I wonder if they or someone else will be back anytime soon.

Ed [smiley=unsure.gif] [smiley=angelic.gif] [smiley=unsure.gif] [smiley=unsure.gif]

Thank you for all this info, we have had a woman show up everyday knocking on our door wanting to give us
the census questions and we have not responded, so now we will, armed with this information.

THANK YOU!!!

I was born in Germany and lived ther for 41 years.

One thing I have learned in history class.

Everything that Hitler did was according to the LAW.

He just changed the LAW according to what he planned.

I guess Hitler was smarter than our Obamanation.

LB, the other thing that has changed is that the slave force has really expanded and they ARE counting the slaves !

Geoff J wrote on Mar 29th, 2010 at 2:44pm:

LB, the other thing that has changed is that the slave force has really expanded and they ARE counting the slaves !

Yes, but they are different slaves. They are counting all within the boundries of the United States now.

Thanks Federal Reserve  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Seems like a fine line. Counting citizen vs. non-citizen is too much work, and frankly can be accomplished by tabulating state's registered voter lists and cross checking against the SSN database (to see who is no longer alive if that matters). If it is presumed that all are (a) citizens, or (b) subject to the jurisdiction on congress, then counting every living being in the geographical American footprint also makes sense. Bottom line is ... 2010 census is not being executed for the purpose of establishing representation. LB has hit this one out of the park.

LB, i know in the Article, it states that Congress wasn't given power to create a census,
but I am wrestling with this now in light of that?

Article 1 Section 2 Clause 3 of The United States Constitution
The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.

Geoff J wrote on Mar 29th, 2010 at 8:47pm:

LB, i know in the Article, it states that Congress wasn't given power to create a census, but I am wrestling with this now in light of that? Article 1 Section 2 Clause 3 of The United States Constitution The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.

Great point... One could very much surmise what you have. The point would be, why was it not written that way? It would have been much better for them to say "a Census", not "The Census".

ALSO... Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 4 states : "No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census OR enumeration herein before directed to be taken."

It states "Census OR enumeration". Could there be other methods to get enumeration?

More flaws that make the Constitution less credable and open to interpretation. Planned? Who knows.

I have a maybe a dumb question.

What is the difference between "No Trespass" and "No Trespassing" ???


LB's info came a bit too late for me.
The census workers where here at my house last sunday.
The only info they got was 3 people.
Not my name nor my exact address nor anything else.

Ed

I want to know who gave them the right to come on my property and leave a census on my door handle. I happen to own 3 mobile homes on the same block. All three of them were tagged with this sh*t. I would like to have them arrested for littering my property. Their main question is how many people live in my house. I don't live in my house. I live in my body. I may sleep here but I don't live here. The unlawful government will get nothing from me. They already came around and got GPS readings on every house. They will tie your answers on the census to that GPS so they will know when they have everybody rounded up.

Hey, Chess... Having a bad day? :)

wrote on Mar 31st, 2010 at 11:54am:

I have a maybe a dumb question. What is the difference between "No Trespass" and "No Trespassing" ??? Ed

Nothing... More of a grammatical thing.

Trespass means to intrude on someone's or something's property against or beyond their or its consent.

Are pigs, horses and cow's non citizens too? They live on the farm also and don't forget the chickens. [smiley=cheesy.gif]

I just wrote 5 in the box and sent the "thing" back to the things that sent it...

Chessmaster wrote on Mar 31st, 2010 at 12:31pm:

They will tie your answers on the census to that GPS so they will know when they have everybody rounded up.

I hope they don't mind if I exercise my index finger and send some PB covered in CU into their heads if they start rounding us up... (atomic table folks)

We didn't send it in 10 years ago, we didn't send it this time.  [smiley=cheesy.gif]

Firstly,

A big hello to the Coalition! I am rather new to some of this and in the few days that I have been a member here I have learned MANY things...

I always knew there was something wrong in America-just couldn't put my finger on it.

I have lived outside of the US mainland for many years but I have kept up with the events that are shaping my country, specially since I have a child who is in the military...sigh...that's another story.

We just got our census BOOK in the mail. The darn thing is about 30 pages long. Is this the same this as you have? I was VERY offended at some of the questions:

(short versions)

1) Can I dress myself?
2) Do I have trouble concentrating?
3) Do I have mental problems?
4) Are my eyes in good working condition?

What the heck are they asking me these questions for? Rather scares me....

Never in my life have I ever remembered that a census has asked these sorts of questions! I read through it and was left scratching my head.

The island I live on is SMALL-everyone knows everyone else. They will hound me if I do not answer these questions-my family will probably be hounded....

so, I am paying close attention here because I want to make sure I have a leg to stand on when I tell them- "look, there are 2 of us living here at the moment. Bye"

I may not comment much, but rest assured I am following all of this very closely and really appreciate the information. My family lives in the US mainland (sorry if I am not using all of the proper terms) and I care about them. I am worried for their future. I have shared what I am learning here with them. I can only pray that they understand and wake up.

Anyway, thanks for letting a gramma ramble here...God Bless you for what you are doing.

gramma


Oh, by the way-here we don't mail the "form" they come and pick it up....

Something else I just thought of-as a resident of the CNMI (120 miles north of Guam) I can NOT vote for president of the US even though I was born in the United States (Wisconsin). We just recently elected our first NON-VOTING delegate to the House of representatives but this is a first and have no other reps. in Washington.

So I asked someone here about this and they said that is why there are "other" questions on our form. The other questions help the CNMI get Federal funding.

Here is something they sent me to help me understand: (oops..can't seem to paste what I wanted to paste)

Ok- I'll paraphrase: the census is used to allocate congressional seats, electoral votes, and government program funding....it's that last one, Government Program Funding, this person said, is what is important to us here. (you can find that info on Wikipedia)

Ok, so I asked - how / where do they get the authority to ask those questions?

He said that this part of the constitution says:

"The census shall be made ....in such manner as (Congress) shall direct by law. He said that the authority comes from something called "Necessary and Proper clause" and he told me that the information will help us to obtain funding.

Funding? For? Health care? Is that why they asked all those questions about being able to dress yourself..??? [smiley=shrug.gif]

What do you think about this? I'm just kind of scratching my head here because this is really new to us out here.

wrote on Apr 1st, 2010 at 7:33pm:

Something else I just thought of-as a resident of the CNMI (120 miles north of Guam) I can NOT vote for president of the US even though I was born in the United States (Wisconsin). We just recently elected our first NON-VOTING delegate to the House of representatives but this is a first and have no other reps. in Washington. So I asked someone here about this and they said that is why there are "other" questions on our form. The other questions help the CNMI get Federal funding. Here is something they sent me to help me understand: (oops..can't seem to paste what I wanted to paste) Ok- I'll paraphrase: the census is used to allocate congressional seats, electoral votes, and government program funding....it's that last one, Government Program Funding, this person said, is what is important to us here. (you can find that info on Wikipedia) Ok, so I asked - how / where do they get the authority to ask those questions? He said that this part of the constitution says: "The census shall be made ....in such manner as (Congress) shall direct by law. He said that the authority comes from something called "Necessary and Proper clause" and he told me that the information will help us to obtain funding. Funding? For? Health care? Is that why they asked all those questions about being able to dress yourself..??? [smiley=shrug.gif] What do you think about this? I'm just kind of scratching my head here because this is really new to us out here.

Hmmm, Wikipedia is a legal authority? That is interesting [smiley=speechless.gif]

And the "Necessary and Proper clause" Really? Where is that one located?

What do I think about this? It is all hogwash. These people are communists and the Constitution has no provisions for them to ask any of these questions. It is sad this is even happening to us.

It's amazing how huge the marketing campaign is for this census. They even have ads on the city buses, I noticed the other day. I never remember it being such a big deal, in decades past. Maybe I wasn't paying attention?

But I don't think that's it. Too many strange details: transferred to the Executive branch, counting everyone, not just U.S. citizens, massive media push.

wrote on Apr 1st, 2010 at 7:33pm:

Something else I just thought of-as a resident of the CNMI (120 miles north of Guam) I can NOT vote for president of the US even though I was born in the United States (Wisconsin).

Why would you want to "vote" anyway ?????

Remember, VOTE means:

Verification
Of
  Thou's
   Enslavement

Very
Overt
  Totalitarian
   Enactments

Here is an in-depth video on how to handle Census Workers...
what to do and say is presented in easy to understand terminology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE6QGRBHQRo

I have seen them in the neighborhood they smile a wave like they are your best friends. What a bunch of brainwashed fools. Well anyway they will by my house because I happened to loss the dam thing away.
I think if they come by while I am their I tell them ten and close the door. Why, if they are going to count the illegal people in this country they might as well count the ghost in my house too.  Ha Ha 

I just had an older lady ring my doorbell. I knew who it was before I even answered.
She was going on and on about some people not receiving it in the mail. I didn't care.
I have it in its unopened envelope. I was tempted to get her that but decided just to tell her that there is not a resident here. She then says, "oh, so this place is vacant."  I said no, but there are no residents here.
Then she said, "well this doesn't have anything to do with residents."  I said, "it has everything to do with residents and I am not obligated to fill it out." 

She seemed to accept that, though highly confused, and with a farewell, we parted ways.
I didn't have the time to educate her as to the why and was happy she didn't persist because I was going to show her my private property sign next. haha

wrote on May 24th, 2010 at 6:38pm:

I just had an older lady ring my doorbell. I knew who it was before I even answered. She was going on and on about some people not receiving it in the mail. I didn't care. I have it in its unopened envelope. I was tempted to get her that but decided just to tell her that there is not a resident here. She then says, "oh, so this place is vacant."  I said no, but there are no residents here. Then she said, "well this doesn't have anything to do with residents."  I said, "it has everything to do with residents and I am not obligated to fill it out."  She seemed to accept that, though highly confused, and with a farewell, we parted ways. I didn't have the time to educate her as to the why and was happy she didn't persist because I was going to show her my private property sign next. haha

I take it that you are a state national then?

Hey Jerry... Are you suggesting that some gray area action is going on here?

http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/images/14th_Graph.jpg

That's right!!!!!!!!

Page 141, footnote 432, of the RED for those that have the book.

Jerry wrote on May 25th, 2010 at 11:00am:

That's right! Page 141, footnote 432, of the RED for those that have the book.

Had to look it up [smiley=umm.gif]

432/ After the correction of your nationality you are “without the United States”. Moreover, you are not a “resident” as long as you are in the republic, not in this state. Further, you are an alien to the “United States”, however you are not a non-resident alien as found in the tax code; you are not a resident, but an alien to the United States.

Lots of people that keep the system in place by fence walking (the gray area).

As a matter of law, if there is no evidence that you are a State National, a fraud is being commited.

• See this information : www.pacinlaw.us/people
  

Bork replied:
As a matter of law, if there is no evidence that you are a State National, a fraud is being commited.

____________________________

A fraud by who? The fence walker?

wrote on May 27th, 2010 at 12:50am:

Bork replied: As a matter of law, if there is no evidence that you are a State National, a fraud is being commited. ____________________________ A fraud by who? The fence walker?

Yes....... The "person" that is using law outside of his political status as he has no evidence to the contrary.

Do you understand now?

With your correction - Yes, I understand.

Show me the law on this one.


Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2010/05/26/census-workers-can-enter-your-apartment-in-your-absence/

Jerry wrote on May 28th, 2010 at 12:52pm:

Show me the law on this one. Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2010/05/26/census-workers-can-enter-your-apartment-in-your-absence/

Who cares about that... A banner on the site says Actor Gary Coleman dead at 42!

Screw the actor! I am studying law even if it is their law, because I am still in rebellion.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223----000-.html

On the bright side, if you're not home, you can't be counted. hehe

However, if there's evidence of you being there...an envelope adressed to you at that address, well...
[smiley=shrug.gif]

We got to get the heck out of Dodge (the United States country).

They showed up at my pad, I wasn't around (wouldn't have answered the door anyway). They left a nice little We stopped by..please call us..we'll stop by again piece of paper. I wrote on it "There is one at this location", put it back where they left it. A few days later it was gone. They got all they're gonna get.

A nice lady showed up at my door about a week ago and said that she was from "THE CENSUS". She stated that "THEY" did not get a census form from this address. I kindly told her that they should have because I stamped it Refused For Legal Cause and sent it back unopened. She asked to fill out a form and that it should only take about 10 minutes. I told her that I am an Ohio national and not a U.S. Citizen; I already sent "a form" in with a stamp on it (Refused For Legal Cause) and we won't be filling out any census form. She said that she would make note of that and I wished her a good day. She then went to my next door neighbor's house. I had to smile that at least he, a U.S. Citizen, didn't send it in.   [smiley=cool.gif]

Yes unfortunatly A census taker came to my house and we had a civil interaction. I gave the number of people at this residence and race as being a member of the Human race, the rest he politely marked as refused to answer. As I have not corrected my status yet, I did feel it necessary to tempt harresment of another visit later on. Having read the Red Amendment I have a pretty fair understang of status within this corrupt system and find that I have several things I must contend with B-4 I can correct my status. For anyone that can't decide which side of the fence to sit on perhaps you should go drive a commercial motor vehicle across the US for a while with a hazmat endorsement, you will soon find yourself so regulated you will be willing to go to any length to get free of the jurisdictional fist and there evil agenda.
Thanks to LB and his perseverance to find a viable way and not a softer easier way like so many others. Thanks to this site I can truly say it's Not My Government, even tho at present I stand in their jurisdiction, soon to be revised, thats why I chose the username FedUp, because I am.

Jerry wrote on May 28th, 2010 at 3:04pm:

Screw the actor! I am studying law even if it is their law, because I am still in rebellion. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223----000-.html

Nice, yes... These people are so out of control. If people were working together that law could be deemed unconstitutional.

Honey, I'm still putting the "No Trespass" signs up

Police arrest Census Taker
by John Burnett And Peter Sur
Stephens Media

Saturday, May 29, 2010 7:27 AM HST
A battle is brewing between the state and federal governments over a Census taker arrested in Puna for misdemeanor trespassing.

The U.S. Attorney's office filed papers Thursday in federal court in Honolulu to take the case of 57-year-old Russell Haas out of 3rd District Court. That will pit the feds against local prosecutors.

"I'm looking to have it kept in state court," county Deputy Prosecutor Christopher Bridges said Friday.

Haas pleaded not guilty on April 8 to second-degree trespassing. He was arrested March 10 at 12:30 p.m. in in Hawaiian Acres, after a resident Haas says was an off-duty police officer allegedly refused to cooperate with the Census and called Puna police.

"When I opened his gate and walked in ... he stepped out of his garage and said, 'Please get off my property,'" Haas said Friday. Haas said he identified himself as a Census worker, and the man again requested for him to leave.

"I said, 'Can I please just give you the Census (form)?' And he didn't want it," Haas said. "He said he was going to call the cops, so I said, 'OK, fine.' We'd been trained to wait by the gate for the cops to get there and hand them the forms that we would have handed to the guy. The police then hand it to them and tell them, 'It's the law, do it.' Then everybody would walk away and it would be fine. That was what I expected.

"But when I was standing next to the gate talking to the guy, he pulls something out ...and out pops this little tin shield, and it falls and clatters on his driveway. And I realized he was telling me he was a cop."

"Then I went, 'Dude, if you're a cop, you know that you have to be in the Census. You have to be because you've sworn an oath to uphold and obey (the law).'"

Haas, who is a former New Jersey police officer, said while he and the man were talking across the gate, police "pulled up behind me, suddenly."

"I handed them the Census and expected them to hand them to this guy and say, 'That's it,'" Haas said. "They walked over and talked to him for a minute or two, then walked back to me ... and then stuffed it into my chest, and said, 'He doesn't have to enter your Census. He doesn't have to enter any Census. He doesn't have to fill out any of your forms or answer any of your questions. And if I were you, I'd get into my car and get the hell outta here, right now.'

"I turned to him and said, 'Or what?' And he said, 'I'll lock you up.'" And I turned back and said, 'So make your case.' They threw the cuffs on me, took me down to Keaau Police Station and I waited there until my daughter bailed me out." Haas' bail was $25.

According to the Census Bureau website, people are required by federal law to respond to the census. Title 13 of the U.S. Code says adults who refuse or willfully neglect to complete the questionnaire can be fined up to $100, and people who refuse to answer questions posed by census takers can be fined up to $5,000.

The identity of the man who refused to answer Haas' questions wasn't immediately known.

http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/articles/2010/05/29/local/local02.txt

Love to see how that comes out.  [smiley=wink.gif]

LB Bork wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 10:38am:

Look at this scary quote from the Census website... How We Count America The census numbers tell us who we are and what we need. Before we begin a new chapter in American history, we need to understand who we are right now. The 2010 Census aims to count all U.S. residents—citizens and non-citizens alike. http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/how-we-count.php What the hell is that suppose to mean?  [smiley=what.gif] Nonetheless, they are admitting the fraud in their own words.

Surprise... That page is gone  [smiley=unsure.gif]

These people are weel on the way to the genocide program under world order totalitarianism.

There are 308 million "residents" in the US... A resident is a thing under private law.

http://www.census.gov