We are finding that many resist reading The Red Amendment.

We are finding that there are many reasons for this, from the thoughts of "I know everything!" to "I am too busy.".
Also, people acting like the minimal cost of the book is like making a mortgage payment.

We must ask, How much is knowledge and freedom worth to you?

Please let us know where you stand on this issue.


http://www.pacinlaw.us/images/content/red_amend.gif  www.redamendment.net

Resistance is futile!   [smiley=wink.gif]  Anyone seeking the truth will get it and read it.  Best political thriller I've ever read.  

This book is worth more than I paid for it!  I'd pay for it again.  The knowledge is priceless!

[smiley=shootin.gif] Get the knowledge and let's end the NWO!

Need one more vote option..... IN THE PROCESS or Currently reading
I am on PAGE 153 and not really ready to say that I have read it until I've reached the last period.

I have never and I mean NEVER read and re-read  and re-read yet again the pages in a book as I have with TRA.
I started to dog-ear for reference and then found that too many pages were dog-eared. Then I started using sticky notes to mark a sentence here and there, but then I wanted to recall whole paragraphs or sections. Eventually, I resorted to a good old yellow highlighter and now I've burned it out and need to get a new one!

When I'm done I will likely read it again...buy another. Remark it again. Maybe a few more.
I am determined. I am going to learn this as if I learned it in school....as I should have learned it.

I'll be in touch. So many questions.

wrote on Sep 21st, 2009 at 9:57pm:

Need one more vote option..... IN THE PROCESS or Currently reading I am on PAGE 153 and not really ready to say that I have read it until I've reached the last period. I have never and I mean NEVER read and re-read  and re-read yet again the pages in a book as I have with TRA. I started to dog-ear for reference and then found that too many pages were dog-eared. Then I started using sticky notes to mark a sentence here and there, but then I wanted to recall whole paragraphs or sections. Eventually, I resorted to a good old yellow highlighter and now I've burned it out and need to get a new one! When I'm done I will likely read it again...buy another. Remark it again. Maybe a few more. I am determined. I am going to learn this as if I learned it in school....as I should have learned it. I'll be in touch. So many questions.

Credo, the trouble is that you could just highlight the whole book. May I suggest that you use a different color highlighter for each reading; Yellow-first, green-second, orange-third. Regards,  Chief

Mine's highlighted throughout in pink!   [smiley=grin.gif]

Chief wrote on Sep 22nd, 2009 at 1:27am:

Credo, the trouble is that you could just highlight the whole book. May I suggest that you use a different color highlighter for each reading; Yellow-first, green-second, orange-third. Regards,  Chief

Your absolutely right about that and I've already come to that conclusion. Still the highlighting was too important to avoid.
I also have been adding notes in the margin and now and again the word "KEY" where something important really hits.

Interesting note:
When I started reading TRA  I wrote to the Board of Elections to cancel my voters registration and
Today I received the notice of cancellation! This feels great, but it's also bittersweet. I would like to participate in the body politic of course but I will not be forced into an arena to play with the monster THEY raised and are supporting.....good grief...that thing has an insatiable appetite for Federal Reserve Notes!

I have finished with the first read and I'm really looking forward to reading it again with a whole new understanding.

I'm also going to make a quick reference guide for personal use.

LB, if you see this. I have one word for you concerning TRA.

Outstanding!  

I just realized that I cant click the "YES" vote now that I'm done!
If you can tally another Yes for me that would be great!
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wrote on Sep 27th, 2009 at 5:41pm:

I have finished with the first read and I'm really looking forward to reading it again with a whole new understanding. I'm also going to make a quick reference guide for personal use. LB, if you see this. I have one word for you concerning TRA. Outstanding!

Thank you so much for the comment. I hope that it has helped you understand what is going on.
Please share the information with others. Grassroots actions will get our countries back.

LB

My first copy of the "Red Amendment" was the version with the red cover and the black cloth tape binding.  I read that copy so much that the pages were falling out. I finally let a gentleman sitting next to me on a flight to D.C. take it.  We had struck up a conversation about the 14th Amendment and he had told me that he lived in D.C. So I told him that the "Red Amendment" was the most important book he could read since he was residing in the belly of the beast.  I then ordered the "Congratulations, You Have Been Well Conditioned" three volume set and I still keep those three books along with my two copies of the new "Red Amendment" near my desk, two copies, one for notes and highlights and a clean copy to loan out.  Every time I take the Red Amendment to bed to re-read sections my wife always has to ask, "Are you reading that book, again?"  I just tell her, "yep." Enough said.

Federal Farmer wrote on Sep 30th, 2009 at 10:34pm:

My first copy of the "Red Amendment" was the version with the red cover and the black cloth tape binding.  I read that copy so much that the pages were falling out. I finally let a gentleman sitting next to me on a flight to D.C. take it.  We had struck up a conversation about the 14th Amendment and he had told me that he lived in D.C. So I told him that the "Red Amendment" was the most important book he could read since he was residing in the belly of the beast.  I then ordered the "Congratulations, You Have Been Well Conditioned" three volume set and I still keep those three books along with my two copies of the new "Red Amendment" near my desk, two copies, one for notes and highlights and a clean copy to loan out.  Every time I take the Red Amendment to bed to re-read sections my wife always has to ask, "Are you reading that book, again?"  I just tell her, "yep." Enough said.

Does anybody know where I might find the book(s) "Congratulations, You Have Been Well Conditioned" ?

Just learned about it today.  Look forward to it though.  I have sooo much to learn.
I just became a member here today.  So overwhelmed!!!

wrote on Oct 4th, 2009 at 5:59pm:

Does anybody know where I might find the book(s) "Congratulations, You Have Been Well Conditioned" ?

Do you really want that series? I can have one made-up for you if you would like.
I have not printed that off for some years now. Shoot me a PM if you care to.

LB

wrote on Oct 14th, 2009 at 10:28pm:

Just learned about it today.  Look forward to it though.  I have sooo much to learn. I just became a member here today.  So overwhelmed!!!

There is much to learn to maintain a sense of freedom from the government web.

You may want to start with this paper : http://www.pacinlaw.us/pdf/Subject_Status.php

Glad you're with us, homeinhevn!  Right there with you and still learning, too.   [smiley=hypnotized.gif]  [smiley=whippin.gif] Don't think we'll ever stop.   [smiley=drinkin.gif]  

LeAnne

what is the book "Congratulations, You Have Been Well Conditioned" you referred to

George wrote on Oct 28th, 2009 at 7:56pm:

what is the book "Congratulations, You Have Been Well Conditioned" you referred to

Same here.  I've been doing search after search on it and cannot find it.

It is a series of three volumes that L.B. put together as a supplement to the old Red Amendment book.

Federal Farmer wrote on Oct 29th, 2009 at 7:47am:

It is a series of three volumes that L.B. put together as a supplement to the old Red Amendment book.

I wondered!  When I searched, that's what I found...LB's articles.   [smiley=1smilie.gif]  Aha!

What I did for another book, though laborious, was well worth the final product. I re-read the book and every time I got to info worthy of a "highlighter" I typed it into a microsoft word.doc. I made a "table" of 3 columns: "page", "the thing I was quoting" and "legal citation". Now, when I encounter a situation relevant to that topic, and I know a few key words to the citation/maxim/etc... I just "CTRL+F" and search a key word from my recollection,and there it is, page-quotation-citation ready for use.
I suppose some may scoff at the digitizing of my memory, but I assure you the act of reading & typing all this stuff has a crystallizing effect on these concepts/memories.

No scoffing here, Steve.   [smiley=1smilie.gif]  Everyone has different ways of being able to remember.

I say, whatever works for anyone to get it to sink in, the better.  Main thing is that we all "get it".   [smiley=cheers.gif]

I am on my second reading, as I prepare to correct my status this year. My first reading was in 2007, when I originally purchased it. I had highlighted throughout in yellow, so it's interesting to go over those again, and discover items of NEW importance. Great idea on different highlight colors for different readings!

Honestly, I can't see how anyone that comes to this forum but hasn't read TRA, or resists reading it, can get much out of being here. I'd be wondering what the heck people were talking about!

Get it, read it, learn it, apply it!

I don't know if I can retain all that is necessary or will be necessary to properly use all law to my advantage to denounce the political system established under the 14th Amendment, but I am ready to learn.

Right there with you Impartial. It's hard as we have to put away much of what we were taught and relearn what was supposed to have been. Am finding it hard retaining it all, too.

Am reading things over and over to get it to sink in and it's starting to. [smiley=cheers.gif]

I have to acquire a copy of it first. Now if I were just able to absorb the truth via frequency waves I would be all set. Obviously, that probably won't work. So I will get the Red Amendment and read it.

wrote on Oct 14th, 2009 at 10:28pm:

... I just became a member here today.  So overwhelmed!!!

Hi there -
I'm a newbie here, too.
Over the years I've heard about how I've become a Federal citizen, been angered by the states' letting the Fed roll over them - and me - and heard that there may be ways to get free of Federal control without having to become a citizen of some other far-away country.  I've been very skeptical of most of the other stuff I've heard, but status correction is looking better all the time .
I'm anxiously awaiting my copy of TRA !

NMG Administrator wrote on Sep 16th, 2009 at 3:31pm:

We are finding that many resist reading The Red Amendment. We are finding that there are many reasons for this, from the thoughts of "I know everything!" to "I am too busy."...

One thing that might help with the "I am too busy" problem is an audio-book version. Any chance of that ?

I've listened to some pretty technical stuff that way while driving and it's actually not bad.
Of course, I have to rewind a lot and make voice-notes and re-read things when I'm not drving, but listening can speed things up.

wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 2:35pm:

[quote author=57525B5F58360 link=1253133055/0#0 date=1253133055] I've listened to some pretty technical stuff that way while driving and it's actually not bad. Of course, I have to rewind a lot and make voice-notes and re-read things when I'm not drving, but listening can speed things up.

My first thought was. "no way...too tough to read, even tougher to listen,  but hmmm [smiley=hmmm.gif], as I think of this further, I have to say that it would be interesting. This would require a speaking format and I would only consider it a companion to the book not a substitute. I would want the listener to get into the book as well.
Interesting thought.

I thought that your comment in your reply about people who had not read the Red Amendment was rather snide.  I genuinely want to read it and WILL someday; but the fact of the matter is that I DON'T have the money to spare. I am 76, live on a pension, take 10 pills per day, which sure as hell aren't cheap, pay rent, pay insurance, car repairs, gas, electric, auto insurance, and oh! yes, sometimes I even buy some food.

Please don't be a smart ass. You sound like the King of England talking about the colonists; or the King  of France, when told that the peasants had no bread, "Then let them eat cake!"

Hey FervemtPatriot, Have you given up to the system in place? The king of England can kiss it. So if you want to stay in the system then so be it don't complain when they change the rules for you.

This forum is about what they didn't teach you in their school system that you have a choice. It has always been so they just forgot to tell you. If you knew that you had a choice which one would you have taken? 

PS. The legal way at that!!!!!!!!

FervemtPatriot,

I tend to be a bit snide due to the fact that people are of the world. If they were not of the world, we would not be in the state of mess that we are in. From what you have stated, you are a victim of the system.

In short, the statement you have an issue with is in regard to people's love of the system over the truth. People rather have toys and buy into the illusion that they own property. Maybe the worst tragedy of all are the people who think the system is a good thing and are being taken by it, as you appear to be.

Wow..Ferv....1 comment and it's  [smiley=grumble.gif] [smiley=damnit.gif]...a complaint about a complaint?

Seriously?  [smiley=huh.gif]

This is a forum where people who are looking to improve their lives through education, insight and effort while trying as hard as possible to shake off the obvious excuses for failing to do so.

I'd welcome anyone with an honest argument and an open mind but after that, I would ask you to try again with "hello"  [smiley=hello.gif]

Credo honest argument  [smiley=hmmm.gif]

Explain what you think a honest argument is.

Jerry wrote on Apr 29th, 2010 at 2:32pm:

Credo honest argument  [smiley=hmmm.gif] Explain what you think a honest argument is.

Jerry,  perhaps that wasn't the best phrase to use, but is the one that popped into my head as an appropriate response.
I feel that Fervemt's 1st post was knee-jerk and disingenuous and my instant reaction was to question his motive for setting the tone that he did.

I suppose by "honest argument", I was intending something more along the lines of "constructive criticism"
Perhaps at the age of 76, you have earned the right to just say what is on your mind, damn the consequences and those who don't like it can just deal with it.

This is mostly a first impression thing I think. I've never seen the guy before.  Suddenly he bursts through the door swinging a bat.  I'll admit it. I flinched.

Credo, I am also guilty of swinging the bat back. It just really boils my blood to know at this age of 50 that I had a choice but was never told or even a hint to the fact my life could have been so different.   

Instead of firing off I try to ask questions first.

Hi everyone, I am a newbie. I am in the process of reading TRA, after I pick my jaw up off of the floor, I get upset at the fact, that we have had an option all along, and how they have not let us in on that fact.. It is very concerning to me, it just goes to show their fraud and deception that they perpetuate on us. It is very hard to admit to yourself, that the government you thought was your original government, is not. But, I have sensed for a long time that things were just not right with it.  The justice that is promoted, is not for us, but, for them.. I learned that in my 20's. The system is working against us and not for us, like they would have you believe.  I tell everyone about the book and am trying to learn how to best explain it easier, for people who still look at the system with their rose colored glasses on, so as to help them get it sooner than later... Time is of the essence, as the beast has picked up a great deal of momentum recently, that is why I think alot of people are awaking to it.. As the book explains, it started so many years ago, and very stealthily implanted, very slowly to be like invisible, the speeding of the momentum has made it more visible to everyone... Thank you LB Bork for doing the research and putting this book together and everyone else who is involved in trying to turn this thing around and bring us back to our rightful/lawful original government.. I was listening to one of the talkshoe recordings of previous shows and heard of the Title 14 in the U.S. Codes of being able to exchange your FRN's in for gold, checked it out and Woops, there it is... The dirty rotten scroundels that they are... Thank you all to a grateful new member and reader.. I plan on rereading TRA, also, my plan of study/action is to get highlighters as suggested, it is a great idea, and to buy the Black's Law Dictionary Sixth Edition and Bouvier's Law Dictionary of 1856.. You can get them on Amazon.com for very affordable prices, used at like $7.00 or $8.00.. So, I am going to sign up, for the present cost of becoming a State/National as the new price would take me too long to be able to do, as it would take me too long to gather up enough monies... Thank you again.. LB Bork.. Mylene

I finished reading "the Book" a week ago (or so) and now I'm on my second reading.  I also use it for reference when trying to explain to my friends and associates how we have been duped and we no longer afford to be silent.

Recently, I went through the Deprogramming Sequence on PAC.
I am sure impressed with The Red Amendment, so far.

I'm very pleased to have met up with PAC. Feels like I'm learning something that matters!

wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 7:31pm:

Recently went through the Deprogramming Sequence on PAC and sure am impressed with The Red Amendment, so far. I'm very pleased to have met up with PAC. Feels like I'm learning something that matters!

Would you like to join the Crew?  Private message me.

We'd love to have someone from the country of the midnight sun  [smiley=1smilie.gif]

Hello everyone, I am new here!

I've been Deprogrammed, but sadly I have not read TRA, yet!

I will, utterly without a doubt, read it ASAP.

Hello!
I am in the process of reading The Red Amendment.
I have ordered a hard copy of Webster's 1828 and Black's 6th Ed. to have as references.
Any other suggestions for references?

wrote on Jun 30th, 2010 at 6:36am:

Hello! I am in the process of reading The Red Amendment. I have ordered a hard copy of Webster's 1828 and Black's 6th Ed. to have as references. Any other suggestions for references?

Bouvier's 1856 Edition is a must... You can get that online.

• http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/NMG.pl?num=1248755418
  

Thanks for the tip and the link!

I have read The Red Amendment (Deluxe Edition) and it was absolutely brilliant. I am getting ready for my second reading, and I really want to get copies of some of the sources mentioned in TRA. Including the Corpus Juris Secundum, The Law of Nations, and Bouvier's Law Dictionary 1856 Edition.

I am excited to correct my Nationality and to put the pressure on this De Facto system from the outside. I just really wish that there were more State Nationals here in Ohio, it would be really nice to have a community working together.

Well, I'm going to have to add you to the PAC Educational Groups in this forum so you can see that category [smiley=wink.gif]

Way to go!

You can search Bouvier's 1856 Law Dictionary online.  Got my Black's 6th Edition from Amazon (used).

Captain, may I suggest that you add Rudolph Sohm's Institutes of Roman Civil Law to your list of books to read. I have this book and the Law of Nations; both great books. Welcome aboard, Chief

I Just learned about it Yesterday, It might take me some time to save up for it, because I'm trying to live on $25 to $50 dollars a week.  I did get the order form printed off, and I liked the fact that you can pay through snail mail and Money Orders.  I intend to get one as soon as I can, LeAnne sent me a lot of links to study as well as links to the conference calls, Which I am currently listening to Call #1. 

No because you have to order it and I just got here.

Oh and Im pretty much living at a survival level

+1

I have ordered TRA and look forward to learning more! I have been deprogrammed and continue to learn more and more about how really duped we are. Seriously, I am disgusted and want a better life for me and my fellow.. I want to use the word travelers, but even that phrase has been soiled by corrupt individuals. Someday, I may even see some of you on the other-side; as a different status in this nation.

Looking forward to receiving my copy in the mail.

I really want to read The Red Amendment, but all I have is paper and no credit cards never believed in putting cash into banks I bury mine underground. Is there a bookstore or somewhere I can retrieve that book from manually please someone help.

wrote on Sep 16th, 2010 at 1:30pm:

I really want to read The Red Amendment, but all I have is paper and no credit cards never believed in putting cash into banks I bury mine underground. Is there a bookstore or somewhere I can retrieve that book from manually please someone help.

You can get The Red Amendment with paper.
Kudos on getting your life free of the snares.

wrote on Sep 16th, 2010 at 1:30pm:

I really want to read The Red Amendment, but all I have is paper and no credit cards never believed in putting cash into banks I bury mine underground. Is there a bookstore or somewhere I can retrieve that book from manually please someone help.

• You can only get TRA through www.redamendment.net/order

Ultimately isn't it a question of whether to take the blue pill or the red pill? I'm going to order a few more copies of The Red Amendment to distribute as I find passion for the truth.

I will be ordering my copy shortly, looking forward to reading it but I do have a question and others may have the same issue as me, I have trouble with my eyes and it is very hard to read book fonts.  Is there any way possible I can get this on a cd or in pdf format so I can adjust the font size?  I am willing to pay more than the donation amount for one or the other type format.  If not please LB take that as a suggestion for the next publications you release thank you so much.

Why resist what can set you free. You have been trained to be fearful, let go & move on!!

Hello everyone, ok so here's the deal, I'm at a bit of an impass, i've read the Red Amendment and listen to LB quite a bit, mostly on Phil Pozderac's show.  I thought I got it, as far as what the 14th amendment did. Other people I have listened to (Joyce Rosenwald, Peter Niece, and Ralph Winteroad) have kinda validated your research.  I recently started listening to to radio show US of A vs US and watched the presentation "The Way Home" found on the usofavus.com website.  On one of the shows the 14th amendment got brought up and they basically said it was a red herring.  They contend that it was the new deal, social security, and the switch in time cases that made us "federal employees" and was the major source of our problems.  So I would like your input on this.

wrote on Feb 21st, 2011 at 9:48am:

Hello everyone, ok so here's the deal, I'm at a bit of an impass, i've read the Red Amendment and listen to LB quite a bit, mostly on Phil Pozderac's show.  I thought I got it, as far as what the 14th amendment did. Other people I have listened to (Joyce Rosenwald, Peter Niece, and Ralph Winteroad) have kinda validated your research.  I recently started listening to to radio show US of A vs US and watched the presentation "The Way Home" found on the usofavus.com website.  On one of the shows the 14th amendment got brought up and they basically said it was a red herring.  They contend that it was the new deal, social security, and the switch in time cases that made us "federal employees" and was the major source of our problems.  So I would like your input on this.

All those people have not been studying as long as myself and others I work with, not to mention they have no discernment from what I have seen. Ralph Winterrowd, although is smarter than most mentioned, does not get it.
And the Fourteenth Amendment IS NOT a Red Herring. Anyone that tells you that is a moron or a plant.
See this thread : http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/NMG.pl?num=1283125417

Politics are very dangerous. Law is where they get people. The former is a carrot and the latter is the silent death. Whoever tells you that things happened during FDR is into politics, not law.

By the way, Ed Wahler is asking for donations. Where is this money actually going? To Ed, I venture.
Ed Wahler has been about himself since day one. He did not even do the research for that book. A guy in Nevada did.

Donate to Gregory Williams if you are going to donate to anyone.

You had better get a better bullshit detector, is my advice. One not made in China is recommended.

LOL! Also, the 14th: Red Herring; somewhat of a Freudian slip.

Ok LB thanks.  It is my understanding that the 14th amendment converts everyone into federal citizens unless you rebutt that presumption and or correct your status.  While reading and listening to others on this topic, I have heard that the 14th amendment only applies to people born or residing in D.C. and U.S. territories, is this true? Don't get upset, I'm new to this and trying really hard to educate myself and understand everything.

wrote on Feb 21st, 2011 at 3:00pm:

Don't get upset, I'm new to this and trying really hard to educate myself and understand everything.

Not mad at you, just at the conmen and distractors. They are hurting a lot of folks.

In such regard, check out Island Makers : www.islandmakers.us

wrote on Feb 21st, 2011 at 3:00pm:

Ok LB thanks.  It is my understanding that the 14th amendment converts everyone into federal citizens unless you rebutt that presumption and or correct your status.  While reading and listening to others on this topic, I have heard that the 14th amendment only applies to people born or residing in D.C. and U.S. territories, is this true? Don't get upset, I'm new to this and trying really hard to educate myself and understand everything.

Each state is a subdivision thereof. Think about that for a minute.

In the original post from Not My Government | Forum > The Discussion Board > Helping Community > This is Awesome Information, LB recommended one video called Renaissance 2.0  Lesson 1, that might give a good visual of what has happened.  It's about 10 minutes long. 

www.csper.org/renaissance-20.html

or

www.youtube.com/watch?v=l37RhdFGVsM

Renaissance 2.0:  Lesson 1 - Revisiting American History - Financial Empire

wrote on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 6:29pm:

In the original post from Not My Government | Forum > The Discussion Board > Helping Community > This is Awesome Information, LB recommended one video called Renaissance 2.0  Lesson 1, that might give a good visual of what has happened.  It's about 10 minutes long.

Nice to know what happened, but it is number 4 in the list of 3 things that are important.

1. Build Local Communities
2. Know Law, Correct Nationality
3. Watch What THEY are doing, and ignore them otherwise.

Greetings from the New Mexico desert.

Sorry to say I have not read The Red Amendment since I just ordered it yesterday. I take it that the book is only available in hard copy and not e-book format. Yes, I would order the book in both formats to get started on my reading and still have the hard copy for a back-up reference.

What might be good to say to those that attemt to refute "The Red Amendment", when they havn't read it?
After asking them if they've read it, and they say no?
'Nuff said already?

I have a notebook, the left column is for the page number in TRA and starting with page 1, I write the highlights and additional look up info.  It provides me a quick reference to something particular and a point of checking out particular case research, and any other point that I wish to pursue.

When I first started the reading, I didn't do that and I didn't want to mark up the book, because what strikes me at one point in time, it may be another point at another time in my learning.  So after reading the first 65 pages, I went back to the beginning to make my notes.  It takes me longer because I end up researching the tangents.

So to all the new readers may I suggest that you would read it through the first time, for an overview and dunking.  Then for the second read, take the plunge for a full research and follow up any points you need to satisfy your hunger. 

I am now going to take my own suggestion.  Abundant Blessings to All of you and us.  gardener