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[quote author=4A7C436B61626F0E0 link=1303427411/1#1 date=1303484509]Abortion right or wrong is a long time debate, it is nothing new in fact it goes back further then you might imagine even before such a medical procedure was invented. It was but a few years back, that a young couple had a child and after several days killed and disposed of the body by placing it into a dumpster. This particular state/country where the event took place had not removed an old and I do mean old law from the books, this law was common amongst all states/countries and the law simply stated that a new born up until its 14th day of life since it could not survive on its own was still considered a part of the mother or more to the point it had not developed a self awareness and the mother could in fact do what she wanted with the child including killing it with no repercussions from the law. So because this law was still on the books at the time of the killing no charges where brought against the young couple, since then that law has been removed. It is like the old story at one point everyone thought the world was flat. I have been on both sides of this debate, and in my high school days on the debate team have won both sides, however for to many reasons even going back into history, I support the mothers choice what ever that choice maybe period. I have shut up more religious picketers at abortion clinics then I can count with a few short statements, but this one response by a gentleman who was on location with his nurse wife blew me away, in one cense he agreed with what I was saying, then as it was just the two of us out of ear shot of the rest he says to me “you do know the first commandment right” my response to him was yes but obviously you do not, since I would assume you believe it to be thou shall not kill. At that point the guy didn’t know what to say and simple walked away in a state of total confusion when I told him what the first real is. Just like the holy rollers of Islam as I use their own books like the Koran against them, Christians are just as easy, since most have no clue of the whole story of the bible and the ones who think they know it, have totally misinterpreted it. The one sure way to shut up any so called abortion activist is with facts and finances, bottom line is most people can’t take care of themselves that is why we live in a welfare state. Second they will always say there is adoption, really you know how many kids in the country of Florida alone waiting to be adopted and do to the fact the adoption laws of America are so screwed up endless you are a direct relative of the child it is nearly impossible to adopt, that’s why we have foster homes, so the government can control the kids and pay the foster home parents whom usually are abusive big bucks to drink and do drugs and once they start getting paid usually 5k a year per child owe and that’s the lowest most depending on location is closer to 10k, and most foster homes have at least 4 kids, 40k a year to hang at home plus they get food stamps and other assistance as well, who wants to give up that income, I sure wouldn’t, this is why 95 percent of all baby adoptions take place in a country outside of America, my church runs several orphanages in a couple of different countries and they never have trouble get them adopted to good parents in America. Why because America is more worried about the rest of the world instead of taken care of its own. The average cost to adopt a child in the US and the BS you have to go thru takes years, why do you think the black market works so well in America, for a quick 50 grand you get yourself a new born no questions asked complete with papers. Special needs children are cheep 0/2500 dollars average because of the medical expenses involved in raising such a child, a birth mother most common adoption can run between 10/40k for all expenses but at any time the birth mother can change her mind and your out the cash never to be reimbursed, and remember your responsible for the hospital bill and your insurance does NOT cover that process and the cost of birthing in a hospital climbs weekly. Those figures take from http://www.thelaboroflove.com/articles/how-much-does-an-average-adoption-cost Read this on the Florida’s foster care system and the comments to that follow and you tell me what’s better, abortion or a life of abuse, neglect or worse if there is anything worse. http://mylefthook.com/2011/04/floridas-foster-care-system-and-how-badly-it-sucks/ And this is just one state/country; you find countless articles just like this one in every state/country, should you play without protection? Well no for many reasons not just pregnancy, how ever kids will be kids, and in most cases this is safe for the mother and she as well as her mate will have to live with the thought of their actions the rest of their life’s. Abortion is much more humane then the current alternatives available in today’s society. When I was young I often would say the greatest gift I could give to my kids was to never be born at all, so I often dated older women with kids and treated them as my own, I now have 3 children and at times with the way the world is and what we are facing in the near future, it saddens me at times that my wife talked me out of my beliefs. I love my children with all my heart and would do anything for them, but I know what is coming and I can not do anything about it, so I live everyday making my kids as happy as can be so that when the shtf they have lots of good memories to draw upon to keep them going. I love these commercials with the starving kids around the globe, it makes me sick, how can a parent bring a kid into the world, when they cant even feed themselves, if there is no food or clean water, move dumb ass or die the F off stop having sex you useless peace of dirt. Do I blame our so called rich country America for not helping out more? hell NO, we cant take care of our own let alone helping people who cant or chose not to help themselves, some where on the land mass they live upon can sustain life, so move there, these third world countries can have a great life, just like all tribes did long ago, constantly on the move, hunting fishing gathering wild berries finding fresh water rivers, this isn’t brain surgery people after all they know how to grow things and build huts. Heck even the caveman did a better job of surviving then these morons, stop sacrificing your live stocks to some God, and eat the F-er instead of wasting it, but know let the kids die because the cow is holly, F that my kids are hungry in the middle of the night when no one was looking that cow would be dinner baby. So I ask again what is more humane. Abortions or starving homelessness no work crime on the rise because there is no work or food and it’s going to get much worse long before it ever gets better 5 dollar gas prices 5 dollars for a gallon of milk people cant afford to drive to work let alone put food on the table or pay a mortgage so they have to steal what they can to survive. Soon I will have to have an armed guard posted around the clock to protect my Aquaponics system to keep my small group alive, and trust me if I have to kill to protect my property so be it, for each dead body is meat in my freezer, sounds sick until your starving. Think it will never come to that, well I hope you are right, I pray people wake up before it’s too late; all I am saying is be prepared for the worst and hope for the best. God help us all Oh and for the whole be bee thing imagine if all those kids where born, we would have all died off of starvation years ago, the countries welfare state would be total Armageddon and we would have laws worse then China with it’s 2 kid min. Wake up this is not a bad thing in more ways then can be counted. All this could have been much different if the powers in control wanted it, simple we could have free energy such as Tesla coil is a type of resonant transformer circuit invented by Nikola Tesla around 1891. It is used to produce high voltage, low current, high frequency alternating current, and many other thing invented over the years, but bottom line there is NO PROFIT in it, just like the car engens my dad invented single charge battery allowing a car to travel 100 thousand miles, or the gas power 8 cylinder he built that got 80 miles to the gallon. If it wasn’t for money the root of all evil, and peoples greed of it, this world would be a much better place where no one would ever want for nothing. How ever I do not see that ever happening until a major mass destintion occurs on this planet. Do you? [/quote]
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