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[quote author=363B2D373B345A0 link=1290281912/1#1 date=1291828849][size=14][b][color=#333399]A somewhat skewed history here from republicoftheunitedstates.org at this link: [/color][/b][/size] [list][*]http://republicoftheunitedstates.org/node/5[/list]That page is full of BAD information and misguiding patriot mythology. Moreover, they use the convoluted site usavsus.info to send people to further confuse them. The owner of that site was warned years ago about the content being misguiding in many areas. The simple fact is, you cannot post everything out there in the movement as a lot of it may or may not be correct. This is the main reason why PAC does not link any sites. The research that we have done is filtered; moreover, the research is centered and has remedy and not attempting to cover many facets. A disinformation agent uses things to confuse people rather than attempt to teach with on-point subjects. Like has been said, Tim Turner and his crew of cohorts have taken information from the movement that appears to have validity but overall is just a pot of confusion in law. The thing that is pushed most is that the United States is a corporation. It always was, so what? These people cite that "In 1871, The United States became a Corporation." So wrong! The District of Columbia passed another act for its municipal purposes, that is all it was. It has nothing to do with the "United States". The other thing is that patriot myth about admiralty law; this is the biggest farce that has been perpetrated out there. The fact is, such law deals with matters of the sea, and not the land. Private law governs the land. Both law forms contain equity so they appear to possibly be the same but are as different as night and day. I am not going to go over every little detail, as I would be repeating myself (as most everything that is wrong with these group of[i] dissidents [/i]has been debunked within PAC writings and also in this forum ). There is no way that Tim Turner can garner so much support and attention without being funded by someone aside himself. Hey, the main kicker? Absolutely no mention of the 14th Amendment! This is a BIG RED FLAG! Pun intended. Also, it should be know that the modus operandi is the same of that as Eric Madsen's Team Law, which I refer to as Team Flaw. The Republic of the United States DOT org site timeline ignores the 14th Amendment just like Team Flaw does. Now, this is either an off-shoot of Team Law (which I have been suspect of for some time now),* or it shows that Turner has just stolen the information. Either way both are wrong and appear to be sting operations. Again, Be afraid, be VERY AFRAID! _____________ [list][*]* There was a group in Phoenix in the 90's that one Shawn Talbot Rice was a member of. At that time there were around 300 active members. Somehow Rice commandeered the group and somehow doubled the member list. Sometime later, Eric Madsen got involved and the office of the group got raided by the FBI about a month after Madsen's appearance. Also it should be noted that Shawn Talbot Rice was recently indicted for illegal activities in Nevada that involved patriot scam type issues. Interestingly enough, in Phoenix he was not a Rabbi, that came later for some odd reason. Rice was also involved with the Little Shell Pembina Band of North America sovereign citizen scam too, which eventually went defunct. [url=http://www.adl.org/learn/extremism_in_the_news/Anti_Government/davis+rice+lindsey+call.htm?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_the_News]more here...[/url] All in all, these activities of Rice are somewhat suspicious, especially when I knew him from the mid 90's he admitted he was exMilitary. NOTE: Do not think the reference to the ADL link portrays them as good guys. It isi surly odd they seem really interested in "sovereigns" though... Why would these people be so interested in what people are doing in such respect? The ADL had been exposed for criminal activities itself. Pot calling the kettle black, it so appears. [/list][/quote]
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