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[quote author=5A57415B5758360 link=1289891513/10#10 date=1290195768]Jerry, as to the law in debate in the delete page, the comments that were made there are easy to tear apart. The main issue was, the subject matter was a threat and they needed it gone fast. There was no chance of fairness. Arthur Rubin, who touts that Internet Censorship is a bad thing, started the ball rolling. Again, the rule of: Do not listen to what they say, watch what they do. Evil people show their true colors under this rule. As far as your other notations/statements about attorneys, such fits in with what Seeker posted: That Wikipedia is a controlled environment which feeds the status quo (paraphrasing). The other "programmed" ones are closed minded and make for a great suppressing team for facts and truth. Addressing the ipso facto [i]citizen of the United States[/i] comment, as usual, judges do not really state the whole truth in clarifying what they say. Anyone can look at the Constitution and see that language (term) is used, but the context is what is important. Poor minded attorneys, who practice deception through sophistry (witting, and unwitting, hence "poor" minded attorneys), use such methods to make fallacious arguments. I assert that [i]Citizen of the United States[/i] was used in the Constitution on purpose to lay the foundation for such, excuse my frankness, bullshit. Below are the fitting definitions from [url=http://www.islandmakers.us/lexicon]Island Makers Project[/url] that fit the attorney matter: [list][*][b]Sophistry.[/b] Sophism, in its modern definition from Plato, is noted as a specious argument used by a person or sophist in order to deceive someone. This is a technique that is popular with lawyers and/or attorneys to gain control over their adversaries in litigation proceedings. [i]See Maintainers[/i] [b][*]Maintainers. [/b]Individuals and organizations of numerous kinds that use various methods to maintain control of America through the 14th Amendment political and legal system. Such entities are generally beneficiaries of what the system produces, hence have a pecuniary (profit) interest as motivation. [i]See Gate Keeper, and Lapdog[/i] [b][*]Gate Keeper. [/b]This is a person or organization that is put in place to keep people pacified with a certain level of information. Such is of purpose to guard the whole truth of what the real problem may be. [i]See Maintainers[/i] [b][*]Lapdog. [/b]As a general rule, a person who is under the control of another due to the lack of critical thought. Such persons may be subsidized in some fashion which may include monetary gain or immunity. [i]See Maintainers[/i] [b][*]Gibberish. [/b]A word used by attorneys who fail to have valid legal retort for someone's position. It is noted that at times the word "nonsense" is used it its place. The use of these words is generally a sign of him being jealous or incompetent. Sometimes users of these words appears to believe that form is over substance which violates the substantive rights of which they use it on. [i]See Facts Denier[/i] [b][*]Facts Denier.[/b] Generally a practice used by maintainers, or lawyers/attorneys. The thought process of these persons is grounded in the 14th Amendment not changing anything in American law; however, such persons may use conceptual tools such as the "Living Constitution" in assisting to back-up their delusion so that the manipulation of the law can be maintained under the political system of the 14th Amendment. [i]See Sophistry[/i][/list]More on the attorney problem here under Island Makers Project database, see [url=http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/NMG.pl?num=1282321275/1#1]American Bar Association[/url]. And, do not forget they paid a lot to go to school... So they know they are right (in the Twilight Zone).[/quote]
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